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Peaceful Protesting?

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dopename Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Professional Traditional Artist
There are those who use a tragedy to bring forth their own agenda. Marxism in this case.
Stand up for your country Americans, Europeans, Canadians and for free-speech. Kneeling is an act of submission.
banned.video/watch?id=5f2468ba…

History repeats itself. Millions will be dead. China, Cambodia, Russia, Cuba.. now Communist Marxist America?
Mao's China over had over 60 million Chinese dead.
ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/med…

ex-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov on the gradual demoralization process of a country.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2o…

Also want to accompany this post by a poem of Bukowski, one of my favorite American writers. "The Genius of the Crowd"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gifEn6…
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StephenL Featured By Owner 6 days ago
I cannot relate to the events that have taken place over the past two months that started in Minneapolis due to what happened to George Floyd.      Without a question of a doubt what happened to George Floyd was wrong and hopefully in a court of law through a trial there will be justice.   Most likely it will happen.

What bothers me is all the people out there going into extremes over this one act of injustice and in some cases linking this to other isolated cases of injustice.     I do not believe there is a serious problem with white people being systemic racist's towards blacks.     Back in the 1960's when protests were being lead by Martin Luther King Jr. that was a problem.    In those the days blacks had separate restrooms in public places in southern states, sports organizations had mainly whites, media communications had very marginal representation of minorities, and communities were majority segregated.    Those days are gone, since the 1960's most of these problems have been changed in a positive way.    In my opinion it seems that people today are looking for the extreme cases of mistakes or injustice as a banner for identity towards their protests and in some cases anarchy.     Their are over 350 million people in this country, in recent years 1ess than 100 cases of white police officer mistakes towards blacks in dealing with the law.    That is a very small percentage and probably the lowest you will ever get since humans will always make mistakes.    The media, protestors, and especially the anarchists remind me of a type of hypothetical situation where a person that has their office cleaned gets angry and fires the cleaners because a strand of hair is found in an otherwise spotless room that was cleaned.

I have heard some of the verbal abuse chanted towards police officers on the front lines of these organized protests and in some cases riots.     The police officers have had objects thrown at them, abusive shouts of disgusting remarks, and in some isolated cases police officers have been seriously injured for doing their jobs.    These officers had nothing to do with a few isolated cases, and most probably have no racist beliefs towards anyone.     One must conclude from this type behavior that the protestors and rioters are prejudice against police.    Most often someone becomes prejudice because they judge an entire race based on the actions of a few.   In many cases they have personally had some negative bad experience with someone from that race.   As a result they believe all people from that race are the same as the few they had a bad experience with.    Another contributing factor that causes racism is some false belief about the people of a race, most often malicious lies spread to antagonize.    This is exactly what I am observing with the protestors and anarchists, they see a man in blue, especially white and they become prejudice towards that person based on a few isolated situations where officers have violated someone's human rights.    As civil rights leaders of the 1960's believed "judge a person by their character not by the color of their skin".    Here we have a bunch of fanatics judging people by the uniforms they wear (police officers) instead of the content of their individual characters.     As a result they want extreme changes to society like getting rid of police departments, this is just as bad as before the 1960's when people denied minorities opportunities based on some prejudice belief they had.     Getting rid of police departments is suicidal, chaos will result.          
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niotabunny Featured By Owner 6 days ago
if you're out killing, destroying, stealing, that's not peaceful that's not even protesting.  these poor sheep, instead of trying to halt the spread of a pandemic, being wise not to catch it (by now probably die with it since second wave looks worse), it appears stupidity is growing.  should this be considered America's third pandemic to worry about?  corona-chan, obesity and stupidity...

and when they get hurt for their rioting, I have very little sympathy for them.  your choice to be a thug instead of being rational and thinking.  a true protect would be peaceful, what they toss at you, you take it, you pray for a better outcome and let your voices be heard.  oh wait that's MLK tactic, this new wave only know violence.
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Triagonal Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Artist
The coronavirus should be the number one priority.
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vonRibbeck Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Hobbyist
"Stand up for free speech" <=> "Don't protest".
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Raskolnikow110 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020   Artisan Crafter
I would just like to mention, in a neighbouring town of my town, two weeks ago there was a demonstration of the FDJ and the local Antifa was the only group active against it.

The FDJ was the youth organization of the SED, the former GDR, a state, where in fact only communists of the old guard (Erich Honecker etc.) had the say.

How does this fit with the image you want to convey?
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dopename Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Obviously when you start shouting about white supremacy, accusing average people of racism and fascism, taking down statues and historical monuments. You bet some right-wing elements are going to show up.
By antifas definition, I guess the average person is a fascist. Therefore deserving to be beat up. Radical ideology is the issue here, no matter what side it's coming from
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Raskolnikow110 Featured By Owner 5 days ago   Artisan Crafter
Wouldn't it make much more sense to join the FDJ demonstrators if you desires the Marxist takeover yourself?Why so skeptical?
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dopename Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah I think those nationalist radical groups are quickly going to spot a Starbucks drinking soy fella. And I'd argue that it's pretty hard to join antifa if you don't have green hair, a nose piercing and a soy latte in your right hand and the communist manifesto in the left hand. Obviously I'm exaggerating, but you get the point.
I think the bald head and angry face expression could work to join both right and left.
But why be part of those mobs? It only creates division and makes us weaker as a nation. Which is exactly what "they" want.. Divide and Conquer
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Raskolnikow110 Featured By Owner 3 days ago   Artisan Crafter
No, I donīt get your point. I never met someone with anti-fascist attitude who fits in your description.
FDJ is no nationalist radical group, it is a remnant of the GDR.
The really remarkable thing, for me as an East German, is that the demonstrators were all West Germans.
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CyberRobotnix Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm currently looking for the videos of Antifa and cars in the first link, but I can't find them. I'll still post my favourite one with a black man who didn't see the Antifa thugs coming.


I also have found some of the clips from the link above, but again not all of them:
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Smithnikovat Featured By Owner Edited Aug 1, 2020  New Deviant
Incidentally, is there ANY method of protesting that one can engage in to not get labelled a Marxist? 
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BeautifulRainofAutum Featured By Owner Edited 6 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Just don't be a violent marxist, is that simple.
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Smithnikovat Featured By Owner 6 days ago  New Deviant
I don't even hit the streets and I'm still considered a Marxist though. Gotta be something else.
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BeautifulRainofAutum Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Well then do you shill for them? Maybe it has something to do with the things you say, i don't know.
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Smithnikovat Featured By Owner 6 days ago  New Deviant
Do you consider me calling them dumbshits who are delusional at best and thugs who have no place in society at worse?
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BeautifulRainofAutum Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Why do you make everything about yourself. My second post, yeah that was meant for you, because of your response, but i wasn't really talking about you when i said don't be a violent marxist.
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Smithnikovat Featured By Owner 6 days ago  New Deviant
>>Why do you make everything about yourself.
Because people make it about me.
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IKrines Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess sit down protests don't get labelled as Marxist, hippie however. 
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Raskolnikow110 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020   Artisan Crafter
No, Hippies are evil. Extremely evil.
They are total ultra-jewish-super-sjw-communists and since you obviously worship them by mentioning them, you must be a Marxist yourself! Nice try, commi-bastard!mmhmmmm  
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IKrines Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
I forgot I am evil Libtard Marxistic feminist misogynist commibastard, how dare I speak about peaceful protest forms, I should be back on street learning to pick up Chassaeus and throw them against the police, with the Autonomes and the Very Evil "Ant if A", ewhile burning trash in the dumpster, so the man don't do it for us.
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Raskolnikow110 Featured By Owner 5 days ago   Artisan Crafter
You are worse than Hitler!moist
And don't think I don't know about all the crimes of hippies. The flower genocide lets Stalin and Hitler looking like kindergarden.
I consume the only unbiased medias, ladiesbart.com and windybackdoor.com, along with dozens of highly competent investigative totally-not-at-all-gurulike-proceduring-absolutely-non-manipulative youtubers, which gives me the absolute omni-insight. I already finished my 6 grades in school in only 8 years! Now eat this!i is gentleman
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dopename Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Professional Traditional Artist
actual peaceful protesting with focus on uniting people together from any class, race, ethnicity, religion.
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Smithnikovat Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  New Deviant
Then why so much raging against people taking a knee during the national anthem? It was peaceful, had people from multiple walks of life.
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Smithnikovat Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  New Deviant
I'd agree with you, except even the slightest criticism of US policy now gets you labeled a Marxist. 
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RasheruSuzie Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Professional Digital Artist
Can you define Marxism for me? What part of it scares you? If you say "just look at history" I think that's a big cop-out because there have been just as many tyrannical blood-thirsty governments under capitalism so it's not like the communism itself makes it happen. Many factors make a dictatorship, and... very often involve a US-backed coup if we look at South America.

Seriously though you gotta look up Cuba instead of eating up what your government spoon-feeds you about it. Here's a great, balanced video showing the pros and cons of the history and modern Cuba: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXBYlC…
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dopename Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Professional Traditional Artist
Well, I have family members that's been in gulags for stealing a few grains. Most of my family were communists by ideology previously due to living in the ussr.
The only thing I've been spoonfed is how great socialism is, I lived in Canada previously. It certainly has it's pluses and minuses.
What worries me is the transition from a system of capitalism to communism and the resulting bloodshed from that. This what many of those protesting groups want. There is already bloodshed and this has only started.
Obviously capitalism has it's major flaws. But this time it will be a model closer to China, a mix of hyper capitalism with communism ideology dictating business policy. It's a very profitable way of doing business as demonstrated in China, and most of the big-tech corporations such as Google, Apple already praise that system and want a similar system in the US and other nations. Basically less rights for people and more power for government and big corporations.
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RasheruSuzie Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Professional Digital Artist
1. You'll have a hard time finding a modern commie who thinks Stalin was alright.
2. That represents the situation of one country back in the day, it is not a definition and it absolutely is not what any protester wants and I think you know that.
3. Canada isn't a socialist country and we don't go around praising socialism here. Many social programs have a good reputation (because they're good) and others don't. Having a handful of social programs does not make a country socialist, otherwise the US would be as well.
4. I don't know where you get the idea anyone wants to be like China, I suppose there's a small fringe who likes China? But 99% of all the lefties I follow on youtube and twitter or hear about at any time... they don't like the CCP, they're anti-authoritatianism. Many are anarchists. Do you have a source to prove that that's what the majority of protesters want? I don't think even half of the protesters are commie-adjacent tbh they just want big big police reform, and understandably so.
5. I strongly doubt Apple would make pro-China comments, seeing as the USA is terrified of communism. Do you have source on that?
I still would like you to define marxism/communism and tell me what part of that ideology frightens you. I agree there have been atrociously bad attempts at it before, but the cool thing about history is we (try to) learn from it.
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dopename Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
1. Here in Russia, Stalin sympathy is pretty high at the moment, especially with the youth and people still march to commemorate him. And I get it, he did a lot for the country and economy, built many great projects, there was social order, low criminality and "stability", took credit for wining the war. But then there was also a reign of terror and your neighbor could squeal at you at any moment. Sometimes just to live in your apartment, which was given by the government very often. Not to mention the slave labor and deaths in the gulags.
2. Many protesters want to stop racism against blacks. Some want to take what whites have. There's division in the movement. It's a Soros funded movement just like antifa. Ironically by a nazi collaborator.
The Elite loves communism, anything to take away your rights and turn you into a slave.
3. Trudeau and his father are both socialists. Who said socialists don't like making money? Canada is not a pure socialist country of course, but it has many elements of it. Promotion of social rights, equality,restriction on religious influence of government.
4. I see many people wanting to abolish the police. Many are even calling for the end of America. But the thing is police will only be replaced by another form of policing. Anarchy is necessary for the Marxist, that is why they want to abolish the police. To replace them. Order out of Chaos.
5. The US is terrified of communism? This is not the 50s. A lot has changed. 
Marxism is basically an economic social dream that does not take into account human nature and it's flaws .
As we can see from today, people have not changed one bit(in their core). There is no equality and there never will be, it goes against the laws of nature, we can only try to make things fair. Why the marxist label? because Marx says that the transition between an economic state where people own property,money and wealth creates inequality; therefore we need to start a revolution(or bloodshed) that will eventually lead to a state of communism with atheism at it's core, where the state allocates property and wealth. But instead of the capitalist taking a big chunk of your earned money, now it's the state. Yeah you will get some form of housing, healthcare,education, the state will "take care" of you in all aspects. You are basically turned into a human tool with limited freedom. 
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RasheruSuzie Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Digital Artist
Ah... more claims of things and no sources, this is a little bit pointless, especially if you believe in Soros conspiracy theories ^^
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dopename Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
It's not a conspiracy, he is funding many of those movements, that is why he is banned in many countries. 
The woman in the video(one of the organizers) is saying "we did apply for a grant from Soros at one point". 
www.projectveritas.com/news/re…
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RasheruSuzie Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Professional Digital Artist
So your evidence for BLM's anti-police brutality protests being a Marxist conspiracy is a hidden camera video of some woman from a different organism who applied for an unrelated grant from Soros at one point... you see why I can't accept that as valid evidence I'm sure. If one of the richest people on Earth was funding a protest, you'd think they'd have more than bricks and like the one guy with a gun to go against the massively over-weaponized US police. These are clearly people who have suffered, maybe they lost loved ones, maybe they lost their jobs, and they're angry at the system which keeps taking more and more from them.
The elites do not like communism, they fear it more than death itself. That's why the DNC cheated in Hillary's favor in 2016 to stunt Bernie's more left-leaning platform. Communism would take away billionaires' money. They like the current system. If the elites loved marxism perhaps they'd have some sort of news network that pushed that kind of propaganda? I can see you protest CNN is some sort of marxist conspiracy too but I assure you CNN is center-right. Very much capitalist.
Thing is, with a strong police state like the US has, they don't need to implement a new system (which in every possible way goes against their ambitions), they can very well have an authoritarian capitalist state. The communism does NOT make the state more or less authoritarian.
I hope you'll do more research on the protests, if possible away from the right-wing websites and maybe look at what actual protesters are saying, unfiltered.
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dopename Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Here you go. A clip from an interview with one of the co-founders of blm saying that they are "trained marxists"
Isn't obvious to you? taking down historical statues, that's one sign. Destroy history to re-educate. Even taking down statues with black people in them.
The elite love communism in that it brings a lot more control. Mix it with hyper capitalism and you have a system similar to China, very profitable. The middle-class slowly disappears and you have the poor working for bare minimum, the rich and the ultra-rich.
The elite are the people that you do not see on television very often, these are not your politicians. Politicians are just obeying orders
Most of those sites are libertarians, some with with right-wing content. But it's the opposition to the mainstream narrative who are left-leaning. People who are called right-wing today used to be called liberals a few years ago. If you are far-left, then anyone closer to the right seems like a far-righter. And the opposite is true.
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CyberRobotnix Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As I always say: Fuck Antifa.
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Bleedbaby345 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020
Change that to violent, insurrectionist rioting.
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eclips1s Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Good job on connecting the dots. Also, nice to see someone link that Yuri Bezmenov interview.
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