Any (good) news about Article 13?


GWKTM's avatar
I'm getting an animated shortfilm finished soon, and I'm afraid that article 13 could force YouTube and FB to ban it along with other European content - regardless how original it is. Not to mention the rest of my channel that mostly consists of YouTube Poops.

So my question is, has there been any recent news or reliefs about Article 13? I mean, we can't go around with thinking that there's no hope against exaggerated bannage. There's gotta be some hope! A relief! Something that could convince us that nothing will change, or that internet won't be any worse or different after the final vote.

There are some more questions:
- Will article 13 ONLY affect monetized content or is unmonetized content like YTPs and other such parodies in danger too?
- How soon will Article 13 take effect? Hopefully not in January already
- Is it necessary to YouTube to replace their current content ID recognition to that automatic/AI content ID recognition/filters news are telling about? Or can they choose to not use them?

UPDATE: :icongralegio: just gave most convincing answers considering Article 13. See comments below
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SaintPoe's avatar
yah 

apparently the going rumor is that hte EU just wanted to make a law so ridiculous that it would force big tech it companies to come to the table when it came to internet policing 

but then the EU actually voted on it 
good news is, it has cut traffic to corporate news, when it was supposed to be a subsidy to their lies.
GWKTM's avatar
You mean the lies that article 13 would be a good thing? But what are the odds the lawmakers will listen to us and cancel article 13 permanently?
none.
the eu was never anything but germans trying to create "lebensraum"(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensra…) for their german socialism controlled, authoritarian collectivist, federal europe.

the only good thing that can happen is that the eu falls apart a little faster.
GWKTM's avatar
But what about the content uploaded to YouTube, FB and stuff? Is there any hope to protect them from permanent removal? Or do we all have to face the demise and start considering a mass suicide?
find one of those vpn services thats are sponsering so many youtube hosts these days and wait for a solution to make the bastardry obsolete.
GWKTM's avatar
Well, no VPNs were ever advertised in Finland AFAIK
tunnel bear is one that i keep seeing
www.tunnelbear.com/pricing
there are more but i cant remember them.
GWKTM's avatar
Would changing country in channel settings and/or change of location in YouTube's bottom be any help against video/channel deletion if article 13 is unfold?
extraterrestrialarts's avatar
I wish youtube and google would quit spamming me about it, it gives me the awful strange feeling that they are part of the problem some way...as if they are complicit.  Scanning for connection, and usually the connection is in the money. Copyright BS has always mostly been about money, other than content rights.

We all know how Tumblr NSFW detection went...

I think people should trash Article 13
LavleyArt's avatar
they are part of the problem because article 13 is gonna cost them a lot of money. That's where the drama of the "YouTube is gonna shut down for Europeans" came from too.
GWKTM's avatar
I haven't received any article 13 related spams
extraterrestrialarts's avatar
well I have, every single day
Anoth3rGuy's avatar
Listen people:
The final vote isn’t expected at least until March or April.

The best way to fight this is for people in the EU to contact their MEP’s and voice their concerns for Article 13.

If you don’t live in the EU, tell people you do know who live in the EU about what Article 13 is and that they should discuss it their MEP’s.
LavleyArt's avatar
I already did aaaages ago. Found out that I contacted the people who are already fighting against it. Welp.
Anoth3rGuy's avatar
Then help spread the word about Article 13 to those who don't know about it or are misinformed.

And tell people in other EU nations to contact their MEP's as well. 
GWKTM's avatar
Easier said than done
Anoth3rGuy's avatar
I don’t doubt that it isn’t easy.

But it’s the most efficient way to fight Article 13.

Putting pressure on the MEP’s is the key.

Inform all your Watchers from the EU to contact their MEP’s.

People in the EU can find their MEP’s here:
www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en…

Do your part and help #saveyourinternet 
BrawlerUnbound94's avatar
The upcoming trilogue for January 21st has been cancelled due to both parties’ failure to reach an agreement.

Not exactly a victory just yet, but it does make adoption of the policy less likely, but only time will tell before the EU Parliament elections on May.
GWKTM's avatar
Sounds promising
GWKTM's avatar
Now that Brexit has occured, is UK the only country where videos aren't blocked? If so, that could save YouTube from deleting videos permanently
SkyFire2008's avatar
I think big corporations like Google will just deny service to EU countries, which will probably force the politicians to reconsider.
And if they don't... well, you've still got VPN, proxies and TOR.
GWKTM's avatar
But isn't denying the service what Article 13 is about? It could mean straight-forward triumph for Article 13, and that's what we don't want, do we?

And how are proxies and TOR gonna help against Article 13? Also this VPN sounds questionable. Like a fake, artifical network that you won't access anything with at all.
SkyFire2008's avatar
isn't denying the service what Article 13 is about?
No, article 13 is about shifting the responsibility for dealing with copyright infringements onto the platform itself.

Anyway, what I think will happen, is that a lot of platforms will not be able to afford a system to automatically detect and remove infringing content, so they'll just block access from EU. And even if they do implement such a system, they will probably only use it against users from EU.

And that's where proxies/TOR/VPN come in. They all allow you to connect through a different computer, so that the server doesn't "see" your real IP address and doesn't block access or filter the content you upload.