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Mass shooting in Thousand Oaks, California

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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 5 days ago
www.independent.co.uk/news/wor…

www.independent.co.uk/news/wor…

So, this Marine Corps. veteran named Ian David Long, who had previous run-ins with law enforcement and is suffering from PTSD, engaged in a mass shooting with a .45 caliber handgun at the Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks, CA. One eyewitness said that he was throwing smoke grenades and firing away.

12 people died, among which being officer Ron Helus, who tried to get victims to safety.
 
Some of the people were also survivors of the Las Vegas shooting from last year.

Ian was later found dead at the bar.
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jameycakeshotty Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In a Facebook update attributed to Long by CNN, which said it was posted around the time of the shootings, he writes: "I hope people call me insane (laughing emojis).. wouldn't that just be a big ball of irony? Yeah... I'm insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is 'hopes and prayers'.. or 'keep you in my thoughts'... every time... and wonder why these keep happening..."

Long had a run-in with law enforcement earlier this year. Deputies were called to his home in April after neighbors reported yelling and crashing sounds. Long was cleared by a mental health specialist who felt long did not need to be taken in for evaluation.

His motive like the Las Vegas shooter was gun control. He was another lunatic medicated to hell and gone with a history of mental issues and police interactions. The laws already on the books, IE Background checks should have already stopped him from purchasing a firearm legally. Californias gun control did not help matters one bit, in fact if any of the bars security personnel had access to a firearm, maybe these things would stop before they start. In fact I think a video uploaded to youtube or liveleak of one of these mental incels kicking his life in a pool of his blood after being shot by a legally armed citizen would probably put a damper on these nutcakes deciding to do this for a long while.
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LizzyChrome Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I like the idea of your last sentence. 
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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
They probably thought that he would have some restraint because of how he was in the Marine Corps., but sadly, they thought wrong.
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mondu Featured By Owner 3 days ago
If any of those other 12 guys had guns, they could have stopped him.

Guns for everyone! Are you mentally ill and the government is preventing you from having a gun? They can't! It's your god givcen right to own a gun even if you're the type who'd kill innocent people with it.
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KawaiiRuby235 Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Student General Artist
Oh boy, we got a ‘Mercian over here
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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 3 days ago
:rofl:
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BlackCapBandit Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Prayers go out to all the families. The question is why? Why did he do it?
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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
He had PTSD, and he ended up snapping and lashing out.
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LizzyChrome Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
PTSD is so common though, I don't think that this can be blamed on that. 
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BlackCapBandit Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And he just so happened to carry a handgun and smoke grenades?
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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Yeah, smoke grenades with that gun, which happens to be a Glock by the way.
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BlackCapBandit Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That doesn't make any sense. Him having PTSD and history with law enforcement sounds like a cheap way to make him expendable and blame it on that. As like many other things, we'll never know for sureThey're all out to get me... 
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IKrines Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
The states should post some more money in health care, and give veterans a lot better treatment, and do like remove guns like Australia, if they want to prevent these things to happen.
Sadly none of these things are going to happen.
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DrifterJellybean Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Americans don't like it when their money is going towards improvements to society, or just about anything but their own pockets
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IKrines Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I thought Americans was proud of those who served their country...
They gladly spend a lot on military, even they cut on everything else.
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DrifterJellybean Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
The large percentage of veterans living on the streets beg to differ with that
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IKrines Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I know.
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LizzyChrome Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Sad but true. 
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DrifterJellybean Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconsadtruthplz:
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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Yeah, because of all the gun lobbyists.
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Shadowstalker55 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
When’s it going to end?
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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
When people come to their senses, that's when!
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BronzeHeart92 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Yesh, IF.  No matter if it takes decades or even centuries, the dream of a gun free america might someday be a reality. And same for all the various wars in fact. Nothing lasts forever. We must NOT lose hope.
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jameycakeshotty Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dream about your own country
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chaseawaythedark Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Student Writer
This is what happens when you neglect your veterans. The very people who fought for our country are being spit on and mistreated when all they need is help. It makes me sick when I see this kind of shit.
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KawaiiRuby235 Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Student General Artist
Yeah, that sucks, totally agree, but don’t you think we should be thinking about the victims and their families?
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chaseawaythedark Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Student Writer
You can; I don't particularly care :shrug: I save my thoughts and prayers for people I personally know
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KawaiiRuby235 Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Student General Artist
Um okay? Just don’t be an a$$hole to people, and we cool
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Saffireprowler Featured By Owner 4 days ago
How's that gun control working for California again? Willy Wonka meme icon 
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BeautifulRainofAutum Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
It's going about as good as Chicago's.
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Saffireprowler Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Precisely.
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:iconalkend93:
AlKend93 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Hey, not everything is perfect, you know. 
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BronzeHeart92 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
At this point, I'm really wondering if Saffire's indeed a psychopath. One that also enjoy flaunting his 'toys' around no less...
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:iconalkend93:
AlKend93 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Saffire's just another right-wing shock troll, kinda like a certain white Canadian wiseacre...
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BronzeHeart92 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Yeah, that's what I figure... Pretty toxic don't you think? Considering that dA is a global community, of course he should REALIZE that not everyone would be sympathetic towards his gun 'rights' in first place. And yet somehow, guns would pretty much justify his jerkis towards people like me...
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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Yeah. Some people are just full of it.
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BronzeHeart92 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
From many interactions with the guy, I would really wanna know why he's the sort of person he is today. Did something happen in the past to make him trust his life on guns? Some sort of a trauma perhaps?
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AlKend93 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Or maybe he was influenced by all this right-wing propaganda?
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Saffireprowler Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Gun control is nothing but a measure to give government more power, that's it. The gun owners of America have given compromise time and time again for the last 84 years.

And why California and other gun control States are not being prosecuted by the DOJ is a mystery. The Supreme Court has already ruled against State and local gun laws of certain types, and California, among others, is ignoring it.
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BronzeHeart92 Featured By Owner Edited 3 days ago
Try telling that to the other governments where that's obviously not the case. Seriously, do you REALLY have to consider other countries LESS free than USA like that? Get real. And what if a rogue government gain power in USA anyway? Doubtful it would have any effect on EU at least but who knows...
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Saffireprowler Featured By Owner 3 days ago
I don't care what you think.
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