Pardon my language, but who the fuck designed those logotypes? It looks like they're trying to sell some sort of high-protein yoghurt or something. The "space force" has not even been formed yet and it has already committed an atrocity just by associating with this idiocy.
If someone is willing to die under either of those standards, they need suicide counselling this instant.
Think I just realised what one of the chief design issues are.
There is nothing relevant in any of the pictures. The technology does not exist, so there is nothing to depict, thus the clipart toy rocketships on indistinct backgrounds.
The marine emblem makes sense: Anchors and ropes are thousands of years old, and everybody knows what they are for. The Apollo mission patch was intended to be worn by people flying to Apollo spacecraft on the lunar mission, so naturally it depicts the ship itself headed for the Moon. Here, there are no weapons, there are no ships, and there is no mission.
Basically they drew a vampire with magic marker in a photo and insisted it was a photograph of a vampire, since vampires can supposedly not be captured on film.
The space art community on Deviantart alone makes better space-themed logotypes than this daily. Sometimes for free.
Is there any place to suggest new logos? Seriously, we can't send people into space dressed like this. This is an embarrassment to the dignity of the United States military tradition - and I'm a Swede!
1) I'm ashamed that the same administration that cut funding to NASA is proposing a new branch of the military whose budget would, pun fully intended, skyrocket by hundreds of millions of dollars simply to pad the pockets of already rich men in America.
The Air Force and to a lesser extent the Navy can handle the nation's space-based security needs for the foreseeable future. A new branch won't be necessary until there's a substantial human presence off planet.
Exactly. When the USMC was spun off from the Navy, the evolution of battlefield tactics proved the time was right for the branch to stand on its own. When Billy Mitchell argued for the creation of an Air Force, the technology was mature enough for a new branch.
Right now, we have neither the need nor the technology for this. Spy satellites are the only real threat in space, and we already have missiles capable of shooting them down. Space-planes are still a nascent-technology (and none of them can yet leave orbit under their own power), and space-based weapons (like Rods from God) are still theoretical.
A Space Force isn't completely unfeasible, but at this precise moment in time it's just a massive money pit, and to establish one now is a completely unnecessary expansion of government and budget. Very swampy.
this is basically taking Reagan's idea to a new level, nothing to see here. sure, we'll have a new "force" but, will it be used to protect us from "alien invasion and/or outer space situations" or will it do what Reagan's "star wars" program did, which protected us from foreign attacks such as during the cold war era. guess we'll have to wait and see what "plans and directions" they are going. not to mention the cost, but hey, new jobs that's what matters most right?
great now I have a craving to watch Starship Troopers!
This is fucking idiotic. There is no defined mission for the "Space Force". Our military assets in space are already managed by the Air Force Space Command, and there's absolutely no reason to think they're doing a bad job of it. All this will do is to impose an entirely new bureaucratic structure that will cost additional billions of dollars, to no practical purpose whatsoever. At least not for the nation. As far as Trump is concerned, this distracts from his mounting corruption, scandals, and legal problems.
Trump can order the Pentagon around all he likes, but he cannot erect a new military service without authorization from Congress, and if he thinks everything necessary will be in place by 2020 he's on better drugs than I have available.
What I find most amazing about this nonsense is watching the Pentagon balk at an opportunity to spend money.
How often does the Pentagon say "thanks, but no thanks" to free cash?
The best theory I've heard so far is that this is all pageantry; he needs something to give up during negotiations for Border Wall funding (hence why he made Pence make the announcement instead of himself... he can sacrifice a "Pence" project but forfeiting one of his own would be defeat).
This is most disturbing for me.... I warned people about it during the Trump campaigns that he would militarise space , but did not kow the name would be space force. This is not making America Great, as America was never great since it was built around bloodshed and genocide of Native Americans. My hope for this planet would be united as one planet, and then explore the stars as one planet and even make freinds and integrate with people around the galaxy and beyond. Not go to war with them, andnot taking pot shots at the flying saucers in the sky to down them to scavenge for technology.. (Flag of the planet Earth)
I am not excited about it, as I would have rather wished for a space exploration, research, mining asteroids etc in peace, not for war.
I would never be proud of them enlisting to war with peaceful extraterrestrials and especially the ones that seeded life on this planet, who vist this planet regulary to see how things are going on this planet.
Hell no, it's all about spending money and military contracts. The Trumps are making a killing selling and buying everything they can get their grubby hands on. That's really what defines Trump's "Art of the Deal". Make as much money as they can while they can. It's corruption on a grand scale and they don't give a shit why should they the commander in thief is at the top of heap.
I'm beginning to believe that nothing is going to stop this Administration. How can they all the other republicans are involved in it too.
Trump is a once-in-a-century fluke. We went through it all once before with Andrew Jackson - he bawww'd about a rigged system, got everyone worked up about the brown people living in their neighbourhood and proved to be completely disruptive in office, deporting the natives and bringing the country to the brink of Civil War.
Then a liberal named Lincoln came along and restored order.
Space Force is a stupid idea. So much more can go wrong in space than it can here on earth. One failure...ONE, is all it takes for some serious meltdown and catastrophe to happen. Space should remain a demilitarized zone for the sheer nature of how dangerous it is to be carrying out operations, let alone intentionally combative operations, out in an endless vacuum. Who's to say a nuclear bomb dropped from space, would not malfunction upon entry and go off in the atmosphere, therefore poisoning us all?
3..2..1.. And we have ignorance! Ignorance has successfully lifted off the ground.
The first time we shot a satellite we discovered just how much debris that produces.
And remember - even a small screw or washer blown off a satellite is orbiting Earth at hundreds of miles per hour, not to mention the larger pieces of pointy shrapnel... each military operation would basically create hundreds of bullets which fly around in near perpetuity.
Dangit, Pence... Unlike your boss, you haven't done anything to lose my respect yet. Granted, you haven't done much to earn respect, either, but that's still better than the amount I give Trump. Don't go messing it up now!
We could've had a space force long ago. We've had the technological capabilities for decades. There's a very good reason why we chose not to have one: we know our species can't be trusted with the kind of power that comes with it. Space is supposed to be neutral territory; our progress depends on us keeping it that way as long as possible.
When that happens everybody else will have their spaceforce too. But what it looks like to me is that Trump is trying to get around NASA because he doesn't like them studying earth's weather and the effects that industrial pollution is having on it.