europe wants to kill the internet #DeleteArt13


if there was any doubt about the EU being a bunch of censorious, totalitarian tyrants that hate democracy, and simply want to rebuild lebensraum, they should all be gone now.

with this open attempt to totally censer the internet and control EVERYTHING through corporate media they embody the socialist/communist regimes of the past and their desperation to control the thoughts and information available to the people.

and if you are too deluded to care about that, due to your own personal lefty fetishising, it pretty much means the end of deviant art in europe.

#DeleteArt13 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nXyn…
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heres a video from an irish source, since somebody decided to pull the "typical american idiot" line.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwR34c…
gajus-tempus's avatar
funny thing people are so worried about THEIR RIGHTS BEING FINALLY PROTECTED...

what article 13 says is essentially "whenever anyone makes records of your PERSONAL DATA, THEY MUST inform you on what level the data is gathered, where and how the data is saved, how the data is treated and how YOU can obtain this information afterwards - PLUS giving YOU the right to either correct OR even BLOCK said data"

in other words: It's a law for YOUR protection. And ONLY the typical american idiot who's used to mate with vegetables (like this fat moron in the video) is too dumb to understand that.

here - learn a bit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6wwBq…
SleinadFlar's avatar
Except this isn't about GDPR article 13 but the up and coming Copyright Directive article 13: eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conten…
gajus-tempus's avatar
reading that mentioned paragraph I see even LESS of a problem here.
Robinton's avatar
Same. I'm not even sure what "other" art13 there is in that posted link.
of course the germans see nothing wrong with lebensraum...

protection of personal data and the copyright directive are not the same thing.
telling a corporation they arent allowed to dragnet for every little bit of data they can get on an individual, and, telling websites they have to filter out all possible links if they or the host dont have a licence for what is linked, is not the same thing.
Robinton's avatar
Which is what gajus said though and i agree with him. Personal data is not something that should be allowed to be handed around without you knowing where it is at any moment. That's what the law is for.

I don't understand why people are so against it, after all those "Data Leak" stories or the targeted influence that swung around quite a lot of votes. All with personal data that shouldn't have been in their hands in the first place.
SleinadFlar's avatar
Which is what gajus said though.

No it isn't. The video they linked to is about GDPR.
Robinton's avatar
I didn't mean the video, but his very shortened version of Article 13.

I reread the article a few times now and for me (like for Gajus) it's simply about the protection of personal data. No censorship or similar things.
SleinadFlar's avatar
*sigh* You're both talking about ANOTHER article 13.
Robinton's avatar
Then please show us the Art 13 you mean. Because i'm reading the one in the link you posted. Petty sure Gajus is too given his short version of the text.
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Artman40's avatar
Let's just say: Removing all the copyright laws would be less disruptive than this act.
EyeballEarth's avatar
This has to go through the EU parliament and will likely be brought before the European human rights court and get shot down like the Data Retention directive a while ago. Really, the chance of this going through is basically nil
gajus-tempus's avatar
this law is TWO YEARS OLD and was only set active last week.

It ALREADY passed everything - including the glorified, british checks...
EyeballEarth's avatar
It hasn't passed everything, that's why it's still going to be reviewed by the European parliament. British checks are irrelevant here.
ShinigamiOokamiRyuu's avatar
there's a similar post running around forum.deviantart.com/community… but that's the failure of socialism at it's finished hour.  it never stops, it just keeps on failing and the notion that people still follow this blindly is sad.  that kool-aid has seriously gotten stronger over the decades. 
Saffireprowler's avatar
Yeah, Europe is no longer the bastion of freedom it once claimed to be. Free world? Hardly in Europe's continent.

I seriously hope this turns into an effective lesson for our European friends. Reason #1776 why we broke away from Europe, as Don Jr. said.
BronzeHeart92's avatar
And how do you think Europe should improve? As it is, my life has been rather fine and dandy so far...
Saffireprowler's avatar
It's not up to me.
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MadrePappagallo's avatar
It's apparently getting to be too much work so they'd just rather ban the internet to stop it.
MadrePappagallo's avatar
That's a good way to turn people against them. Let them do it. Maybe just maybe this could be the motivation the people need to fight back.
kyrtuck's avatar
Fun fact: the kilt as we know it, was invented by an Englishman and did not become popular with the Scots until the English tried to ban it.
stopping copyright infringment by making it impossible to post links to anyting without having gotten a licence from whoever you are linking to and having them charge you for it and tax that charge for linking.

yea, that totally just about copyright and not malice about the concept of free communication.