I've been looking into this, and it seems that in Christianity, the words "angel" and "demon" used for good and evil spirits are loanwords from Greek, where they have completely different meanings that don't intrinsically mark the subjects as being members of the good faction or the evil faction, meanings that go back to Greece's pre-Christian Pagan religions.
In Greek Paganism, titans, deities, angels, and demons are all different ranks and classes of divine magical beings that all co-exist to some extent.
In the Hebrew Scriptures that Christianity is largely based on, the beings called "angels" and "demons" in today's Bibles were actually called "sons of God", a term that I suspect was scrubbed in favor of taking "angels" and "demons" from a Pagan lexicon for three possible reasons: 1) The term "Sons of God" sounds very polytheistic; logic would dictate that the sons of a good are themselves gods, and the idea of the Only God Ever having sons like Pagan gods and goddesses do opens up a channel for all sorts of uncomfortable questions about God and Jesus that the fledgling monotheist movement would rather squash than answer 2) Redefining demons as evil monsters and traitors helps to demonize the other religions and their magical practices that Judeo-Christianity saw as evil and wanted to stamp out, as in the original meaning of demons, they were the ones who were often the bringers of knowledge, especially the knowledge of how to perform Pagan magic, witchcraft, etc. 3) The two sides being called "sons of God" and "fallen sons of God" is a little confusing and just not as catchy and marketable as giving the factions separate names based on terms that already had cache in the wider culture; just ask the Autobots and Decepticons
yes, it is curious that they derive from the Greek, it is also curiosos that the true benevolent and malignant spirits in Greek or in Latin have other names. Like the Genius,This genius is also represented with wings! It's exactly like an angel in in the aspect of protector, not of messenger. Roman women on their wedding night used to pray their Genius to be with them and give them strength... The first night was not pleasant. And then I think of the Genius of Aladdin because in the Islamic religion this genius, "Jinn" it's a supernatural entity in the pre-Islamic and Muslim religions, intermediate between the angelic world and humanity, which is mostly malignant, even if in some cases it can express itself in a completely benevolent and protective manner. These beings are almost the same thing. The angels in the Bible are called mal’akh they are only messangers in the O.T. both human and divine
in the Old Testament this figure is very enigmatic, I spoke with a Jew of the angels, and they have a different vision, some say that angels are not beings, they are emanations of God Himself as human beings, then they disappear when they no longer have the role of messengers. This is because every aspect of polytheism is not good for Judaism. Then in that passage some Jews told me that perhaps the sons of God are human beings not angels, and that passage speaks of how human beings made selective abortions, others say it's about homo sapiens had sex with neanderthals.. because for the Jews the concept of pure Jewish man is very strong, he was not allowed to reproduce and mix his own blood with certain people, a bit racist..
I do not desperately want to know the truth, only the different visions for see the things in common and the differences, a satanist told me about demons and angels (something like the Greek demons) But on the ghosts i had no answers, anyway the Greeks and the pagans believed in them too ..
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Ok. Demons (the original Gods before xtainity, judaism, and islam came along) to us Satanists (or the ones I'm friends with) are the most beautiful and loving creatures of the universe. The angels that come from xtainity, judaism, and islam in our eyes are nothing more than evil beings that have absolutely no love whatsoever in them and they look like moldy human corpses.
mmm thank you, to illustrate the vision of your religion, the angels are therefore evil spirits ( the same that are commonly called demons) in annoyance, to possess and create poltergeist activities in satanism?
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You are still not getting it!
The three religions of xtainity, Judaism, and Islam have NOTHING to do with Lucifer and His Demons. NOTHING. Do NOT combine Lucifer and His Demons with these three religions of pure evil!! EVER. He and His Demons HATE that!! He and His Demons are NOT associated with these three evil religions at all!! Those three religions are nothing but pure evil and are only around to corrupt Him and His Demons and lie about them all being pure evil when they are NOT!! Lucifer and His Demons are NOT evil so why the fuck would He and His Demons be a part of these three evil religions!?
Judaism, and Islam are not the three religions of xtainity, I never mentioned Islam, i do not think what the demon think of what i never said. Calm down, do not proselytize, I am not interested in the true religion because I say it it's true and my religion say it's true. I know very well that Satanism reverses the ideas of Abrahamic monotheism. But there are billions of other religions that have demons, Buddhism, Shinto, paganism.
Since I can see spirits like angles and demons, I can answer some of this. A human can see spirits if their 3rd eye is open. As for the religion, it depends on how they see angles and demons. Since I am not in a religion, I see things differently as others that are actually in one. And with me having both an angel and a demon bound/assigned to me, it kinda depends on the person's view points. However I prefer to not follow religious beliefs Since they blind humans and not show them how the world actually is. For example, not all demons are hostile or evil, and angles are not perfect beings.I know this from experience.
Humans in flesh and blood. Except the angles have halos and wings. The demons do look like humans (they were once human) but have fangs, horns, and a tail. Demons and angels both have different appearances depending on what they looked like when they were alive.
When an angel and demon is about to show themselves to a human,they both appear in a different way. For example, angles fade in and become corporeal. Demons will show themselves as a black, white, or red like smock/shadow before going into what they actually look like (becoming corporal).
I think it's mostly just energies at differing frequencies and densities or whatever, some lower some higher, to oversimplify it. Dante's Comedy(not just his Inferno) and Chün-fang Yü's book on Kuan-Yin might give you more insights, to start with. Some old grimoires can be interesting too. Even the same entities can be seen in different ways by different people in different times, there's not a single vision or anything.
There is light, and dark. Humanity walks somewhere in between. What we feel , and see, is not all that there is. Everyone finds "God", their own way. Those who lived before us, have insight. But every life finds it's own "angels" and "demons".
From what I've seen, both 'demons and angels', as we know them today, stem from the ancient term 'daemon'. A bunch of [MONOTHEISM] after, here we are. There are no benevolent/malevolent spirits. Only tricksters.
''and never negative or spiteful'' People in this day and age can take anything as ''negative or spiteful'' if it doesn't match their worldview. Tricksters like jokes. And most of the time, the subject of the joke doesn't like them that much.
Why should someome has to enjoy this jokes, we are ignorant in the matter, vulnerable and we can not defend ourselves from these beings if they exist. I want to show you how in ancient times some entities were negative, not only now, and example the "Lemures" a kind of spiteful ghosts, in ancient Rome people were terrified of them, to keep them quiet they invented parties dedicated to them.
It depends on which Christian tradition you have in mind.
In the one I know best, you will almost certainly not see an angel unless you're in a state of high spiritual advancement, achieved by prayer and fasting. Any appearance of an angel when you are not in that state is therefore likely to be a demonic presentment. An actual appearance of a demon is also a very rare event, though. More often, they believe humans are influenced by each in more subtle means; demons by way of temptation, angels by way of resistance. Demonic temptation very often arrives in the form of "logismoi", uncharacteristic thoughts that seem to arrive suddenly, out of nowhere.
to many people, it's their belief that if you have a "third eye", you can see them. It's an internal eye that helps you see what others can not. Or hear or even feel and sense.... many think of it as the "6th sense" but it goes way beyond that