Not all bisexuals are attracted to transgender's. Hence the need for the term.
I will agree with you to a point; Terms like Demisexuality are largely just flavor text. While it does describe a specific phenomena its inclusion in anything isn't necessarily helpful to paint a better idea regarding the person you're speaking about. You'd still have to use gay, straight, bi, or pan in conjunction with Demisexual that reality renders the term irrelevant. Words like it do have merit just not much.
Think of it like fps in a video game. 4000 fps is a big jump from 160 but I can only fucking see up to 150 so why bother? Your additions are adding something but said thing isn't necessarily helpful due to the inability to actually make use of it.
"Why. So you're telling me that if a bisexual is madly in love with a person, and this person comes out one day and says "Well, I'm actually transgender", or: "Well, I don't really feel like I belong to either sex. I am just me. Nor male or female.", you're gonna tell me this bisexual person is gonna go "Ewww oh my god that's gross, I suddenly don't love you anymore"? Are you kidding me?'
Essentially yes. But being gender-neutral and transgender aren't the same thing.
actually i unironically agree, bisexuality is the same thing as pansexuality. If people wanna call themselves pan that's FINE but it's still the same damn thing as bi. They make this distinction that oh, Bisexuals only date MEN or WOMEN on the binary spectrum, which isn't even necessarily true- it completely depends on the bisexual individual if they wanna date tranniess or NBs or whatever, there is really no need for another term.
Oh ok! I can never tell if someone is actually trolling or not xD
That's true. And I agree also with the fact that it's fine, but all it seems to me is that there are people who want to appear unique at all costs, so they make up or adopt terms without knowing the meaning or the real difference... if there's actually one.
And yes, dating a transgender on non-binary person goes way BEYOND the mere fact of being bisexual or not.
If you're bi you're attracted to both sexes, pan you're attracted to someone's personality, what every sex they happen to be is not a factor. That's my understanding of it. I know people have mentioned it to you and you don't accept it. I couldn't tell the difference between bi and pan for the longest time either. You can say they are under the same umbrella but they describe different mindsets to how someone finds another persona attractive etc.
I know I'm a condescending cunt but I do hope that helps a bit.
i think the way OP and some people define bisexuality, it's a sexual attraction to both male and female sexual organs. by that definition, yeah, bisexuality is an umbrella term for pansexuality. since by that definition, bis are into both cock and pussy ....and what other organs are there?? ...even intersex people have a combination of both. ...and no other sex organs are possible. [among the human species].
this is a purely sex-based definition of sexuality, and does not consider gender at all.
also (i believe) most bisexual people care about their partner's personality, and sex doesn't matter (because they are attracted to both sexes). ......although obviously a pleasant physical appearance is going to be attractive for both bisexual and pansexual people alike.
I think op is ignoring a chunk of what goes into sexuality but if you do just strip it down to what sex they're attracted to then technically they are correct. My understanding of pan is that the appearance/physical aspects aren't a factor and that's the distinction. It's all very confusing to be honest but that seems to be the common consensus. I consider it an extension of bi since you have to be bi to be pan but you can be bi without being pan.
I'm pretty sure its a fancy way to say you're hardwired to pick personality over looks.
It's okay for you to believe that "pansexual" is a thing and it's all shiny dude. LOL I am super glad for you. You are so woke and informed! Wow. To think that just a few decades ago, pansexual didn't even exist. How did people even survive?
The way I personally see the world, anyone who tells others that they need to be more informed (or "self aware") while propagating woke culture SJW terms like "pansexual" and "panromantic" is a woke culture SJW or heavily influenced by it. I am a fossil and very removed from that crap. People now days don't even realize how much they have been brain washed into believing it or pandering to it. It's a belief system, plain and simple and I reject it. The categories and labels are contrived and kinda pointless in my opinion. I don't really need to be informed about them and know all the distinctions. I never comes up in my real life in any way. It only appears on the internet in places like this stupid little forum. It's okay if that means I have a smaller circle of "internet friends."
People don't have to do anything, If you think something is super important it's your responsibility to inform other people if you want them to know about it. Op is getting an explanation but just refuses the concept so I don't see the point. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Yes you're absolutely right, willful ignorance seems to be your thing.
Why in the HELL does every sexual orientation even need a flag? I am going to make my own flag, just for me. Nobody else will have my flag. My flag will have fire on it and will burn all the other flags it touches to ash. It will be bigger too.
Darn it! We have been so distracted by the Complaints board this morning we haven't gone through our Instagram feed with all the lolita fashion girls, Tokyo idols, maid cafe girls, doll art and anime pictures. AND NOW we are almost out of time and will have to get off the internet. I hate it when that happens! I haven't even had a chance to chat with my lolita and brolita friends on Facebook.
I am wondering how Misty is going to make a flag that is on fire? OH it should be black and red and say "MISTGOD SEXUAL" in big red letters.
My point is, I don't care. If you wanna identify as bi, cool. If you wanna identify as pan, cool. If you wanna identify as a pillow, cool. I'm not going to tell people who they can and can't be. It's not wrong or illegal, so why care? Let people raise their flag and be proud of who they are. That's really all I have to say.
All sexual orientations are just fancy terms people use to distinguish themselves from others. Stop approaching sexuality as some strict taxonomy, approach it more as a tool for communication, and these arguments start to matter a lot less.