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[Serious] Minors drawing Soft core Porn

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Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Minors, let's just say in my case are 14-16 year olds, drawing Soft core Pornography and proudly owning a NSFW twitter account that is open to the public to see.

I'll copy paste my question because I'm tired of writing the same thing over and over again.

Okay so I have two friends and both of them are girls. One is 16 and one is around 14-15 i guess. The two loves to draw NSFW and soft core drawing. 16 year old has lewd looking ocs and often draw in suggestive poses. I never see them drawing naked things, and when i asked, they keep heavy NSFW to themselves. Meanwhile the other one (14-15) has a public NSFW account and they often draw soft core and all.

I've seen some other minors doing this on twitter and discord. Proudly admitting they are under 16 while also owning a NSFW account for the public, not for role play or private stuff.


Should Social media ban this or let minors draw porn for the public to see?

Also I'm afraid I can't show you an example of their artwork. I don't want to make their drawing more known to the world than now.

PS: The characters they are drawing are above the Age of Consent. But not with the artist drawing it.

And yes, they draw NSFW on almost daily basis.
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:iconlostpocong:
LostPocong Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  New Deviant Hobbyist Digital Artist
Chilren aren't as ignorant about sex as some adults would like, personally i found out about sex when i was in 2nd grade. As long as they're not sharing pictures of themself, making some lewd drawings seems like a harmless way for them to explore their sexuality. Of course they should still be warned about adults who show a suspicious amount of interest in them or their art. Forbidding them from engaging with anything adults deep inapropriate will just result in them beeing sheltered.
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Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Student Digital Artist
onion sad Honestly I'm making this forum because I was just like them. Though my artwork wasn't centered around NSFW 24/7 or almost all the time, but one or two nsfw artwork of mine did fish out pedos who took advantage of me for years. I'm honestly worried because GROOMED MINORS usually don't speak out when they are getting groomed until years later. Their comment section and discord seems to be a-ok for now, but who knows what's happening in their dms? Honestly I hope they can continue doing nsfw in their roleplay/private space so pedos won't find them
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LostPocong Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  New Deviant Hobbyist Digital Artist
That sucks, i'm sorry. I hope the people responsible spend the rest of their lives in some musky old prison cell.
Maybe social media sites should just forbid adults from dming minors? Idk even then someone could still lie about their age, the best way to make social media safer for children is proably to warn them about people with sinister intentions; telling them about red flags like requesting pictures or asking them to keep their conversations a secret.
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Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Student Digital Artist
True that. I believe minors can draw nsfw as long they keep it to themselves. We can't victim blame minors, but at the same time we need to understand that sometimes it's easier to tell one party not to post than the other not to harass
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bopgoth Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2020  New Deviant Hobbyist Digital Artist
so many people in this thread missing the point lol
like do people not find it strange that public sites and whatever will let children post 18+ content, something they aren't old enough to view?
of COURSE they're gonna know what sex is down the road but THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE
grooming and predators are so frequent these days, its terrifying because they're gonna use those awful excuses of "well they post this" or "they said i could do this" when children can't even consent..
hell people underage sending 18+ images to someone over the age could get that person in trouble.
but it all leads to parents, we have all these crappy internet laws for kids because parents don't know how to parent.
do people not think about these things???
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2020  Student Digital Artist
The point went over their head lmao. No one is forbidding teens from drawing peen. The problem is when they share it online and proudly show their age.
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bopgoth Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2020  New Deviant Hobbyist Digital Artist
its just amazing how inconsiderate and ignorant people are regarding topics like this involving children. like forget your morals, where is your respect and decency? how would you feel if your kid was doing this, how would you feel if your kid was at risk of being exposed to a predator? this isn't a one sided topic, think of the big picture yall
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Student Digital Artist
its just amazing how inconsiderate and ignorant people are regarding topics like this involving children. like forget your morals, where is your respect and decency? how would you feel if your kid was doing this, how would you feel if your kid was at risk of being exposed to a predator? this isn't a one sided topic, think of the big picture yall

You have no idea how much I worry about these children. I won't give two shits if they're like 17 or shit because that would be their problem if they attract some weirdos to their page. But these are 13-16 year olds.
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:icongametrek:
GameTrek Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2020  Professional General Artist
With all do respect it is not the twelve century anymore with "Dante's Inferno"
We do not have men walking around like monks and women who are nuns 24/7. The same with the puritans and various witch hunts

The way it works is that you are you but when you make content if you feel the content is not viewable then you should censor it.

The majority of people are sexually active at age 11.  It is normal.

Go and lose your virginity already.
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Go and lose your virginity already.
The majority of people are sexually active at age 11.  It is normal.
[CHAT ICON] Pog Sakurai
If you like porn made by kids, sure. Not forcing you to not like it sis. Also, virginity is a social construct. This is from a person who had sex before.
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:icongametrek:
GameTrek Featured By Owner Edited Aug 21, 2020  Professional General Artist
Your using labels.  The problem with art is that your turning something normal as the nude body into a sex thing

Going to art school. I met a Korean gal. She said from when she was in grade school art class had nude people so it was not new to her.

In my art class ( USA ) you had people from all kinds of backgrounds.
We had nude women and all the boys was like turned on or making childish comments. We had nude men and the same boys was like
"I could not do this" and the same person walked out of the room going "gay" to himself over and over again "this is gay"

The same for the girls. We had them going oweeeehhhhh!!!!! of the idea of seeing a nude guy and the professor ( who in my opinion have issues )
literally canceled the nude models because of the way they were reacting

We some girl from some religious nation. She would look  down and draw bs. She think she was going to pass but she failed and made a big deal of not being able to draw the subjects.

.......You want to bring your political piss to the art lab you need to look elsewhere
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You need to be able to create freely and express yourself. Not bs. Also love is young idiot. You can not enjoy the opposite sex at least one person has to be admirable.
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Student Digital Artist
The point went over your head like a paper plane missing the destination lmao. Nobody give a shit if you study body nude or shit. The problem is when you're 13-15 and you draw helltaker girls masturbating and then upload it to your twitter, where you proudly show your age online.
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't even talk to him, seeing he always act like this (like a total paint huffing retard that's racist and shit).
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Uh oh Sarah. I checked his gallery and... Is he really going to art schools?
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Edited Aug 23, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
I really don't know nor do I want to know.
Oh GOD, I forgot how bad his art is! There is no way he would pass art school with that.
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Let that sink in for now.
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Really? thanks for telling me, Sarah!
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
If you SEEN the comments he made in the past months or weeks/days...He even said how "chubby" and "ugly" Aerith was in FF7 Remake https://forum.deviantart.com/entertainment/gaming/2574424/
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Student Digital Artist
That's horrible. I haven't been around the forums lately so I don't know. Thank you for informing me about this.
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:icongametrek:
GameTrek Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2020  Professional General Artist
Your point we all should be living in the 12th century.

It is art, drawing, pencils, papers, you have to be worlds biggest loser to put labels on something like scribbles  and print from imagination meant for peoples enjoyment.

What are you? The haffy police? Your going to attack somebody for practicing artwork, to the stuff that was carved via marble and books? That is how pathetic and significantly small your existence is.

Instead of being like. That sucks not my problem. Thanks this material people are not going insane, and personally is nothing in comparison to photos, in over inappropriate positions, with . sets, makeup, costumes, and lighting. I mean your speaking stone-age ideas.

This is not the age of missionaries in India smashing statues because they are literally depicting the family participating in sex.

This is the age where you go "Hey it is there who cares". Like I could turn a blind eye to your lame childish nunnery writing about how you do not like what LITERALLY ALL PEOPLE DID WITH PEN AND PAPER. Everything you mentioned asides for that are just labels.
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:iconshadow-xxii:
Shadow-XXII Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2020
Are you new here?
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Been here for years. Still shock me until today
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:iconshadow-xxii:
Shadow-XXII Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2020
oh yeah it's pretty damn disgusting tbh. Sadly the site here gives less then two shits.
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2020  Student Digital Artist
I know right? Disgusting.
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:iconplanxtafroggie:
planxtafroggie Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah that is disturbing, and should be restricted among minors. :(
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Should be mandatory tbh
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:iconsuitofpaint:
SuitofPaint Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't have a problem with drawing NSFW if you're a minor, given the following:

1.) It's of your own volition--no one is coercing you into doing it
2.) You aren't posting it online where your age is part of your public identity
3.) Any other guideline you'd apply to normal, SFW art (hate speech, illegal stuff, all that jazz not allowed)

Like, yeah? I assume most adolescents know what sex is, and they're exploring it a bit within their own means, and that may include trying to draw stuff. Thing is--it's a muddled gray area both ethically and legally due to all the factors involved--age of the artist, age of the characters, circumstances or reasons for the art being made, access to certain demographics (like other minors--I'm pretty sure distributing NSFW to minors, even if you are one yourself, is illegal, but I'm not a lawyer), and the like. It's very risky.

I'd highly recommend that for posting to the internet, one should stay away from even soft-core until you're older, or keeping nudity to studies. I don't think I'd complain if minors weren't allowed to post explicit sexual content to the internet...
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Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2020  Student Digital Artist
You aren't posting it online where your age is part of your public identity
They even made birthday art like: "Homg im now 14!!!!" So yeah that one is violated.
Also about the distributing NSFW to even fellow minors is indeed breaking any guidelines. But this a gray area because they only post softcore. Though I saw them posting hardcore once or twice, but their follower list aren't above 10k or anything. They do mostly stick to softcore.
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BI0TERR0R Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Minors drawing sexual stuff is not frowned on because of 'prudish' traits, but because it is technically illegal. Also it can get people in trouble who are of age and have accounts that are specifically 18+ when minors undermine that and go and view their stuff regardless. 
It's not a hard concept to grasp. 
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020  Student Digital Artist
It's not a hard concept to grasp.

You the only one here with more than 3 braincells
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:iconbi0terr0r:
BI0TERR0R Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Tragic.
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alex-crocodylia Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Why is everybody acting like a prude, suddenly?
Don't get me wrong, I hate NSFW art, I find it so boring, but are we really gonna act like teens don't know what sex is?

Come on. 
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020  Student Digital Artist
It's not about teens knowing what sex is or not. They are on the internet, they lost their innocence to a Sans x Reader fanfiction. It's about posting it online and joining NSFW circle with adult artists and present their NSFW art to grown
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:iconalex-crocodylia:
alex-crocodylia Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2020  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ohhhhh! I get it now.
Well... The point is that they're gonna find a way in any case...
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Which is dangerous asf. Parents needs to know.
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:icondrakensson:
Drakensson Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2020
One of the worst things you can do to your child is to control their creativity. Let them draw whatever they want, if you ask me.

Besides......it's probably crap quality anyway
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:iconyangxiaofan457:
YangXiaoFan457 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
But we can protect them from groomers. Or at least teach them how to handle the situation.
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EnryoAlpha Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020
Protect them?  Better to teach them how to avoid and defeat them, and then they'll be able to protect themselves without the need for a nanny watching over their shoulder every minute of every day.  And who are you to choose for someone who isn't your own child, who they get to love?
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:iconyangxiaofan457:
YangXiaoFan457 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 15, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
I just don't want another child missing like my classmate who probably could have saved had she had just one friend in school. I still feel guilty, I didn't know this would happen.
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EnryoAlpha Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2020
What happened? Did she commit suicide, or was she kidnapped? Also, you said, IF she had had one friend... then I must assume you had it not in yourself to be that friend for her?
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:iconyangxiaofan457:
YangXiaoFan457 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Well lets see.. I was a naive teenager in her group of friends. I only cared about having fun, sometimes took studying seriously and ate a lot of junk food.
Like any typical teenager I didn't go round looking at everybody and predicting "oh well he/she may be a potential victim of kidnapping so I will befriend them to protect them", also there is also the fact that the other person needs to give their consent. Can't force someone to be your friend.
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:iconenryoalpha:
EnryoAlpha Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2020
"can't force someone to be your friend." There are a number of people which would disagree with you on that.
Putting that aside however, one should not need to be predicting possibly terrible things happening to people, in order to be a friend to everyone who crosses that one's path. I presume your parents never taught you that however. I don't blame you for acting according to nature. But I hope you can do better to overcome that nature in the future.
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YangXiaoFan457 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Well if people disagree then that is their opinion, I suppose. But I still wouldn't force someone to do something they aren't comfortable with.
Dunno seems unrealistic for me to befriend everybody. I have my own taste and lifestyle which not everybody will agree with.
Unfortunately, doing better to meet your standards may be difficult for me. But I will try my best.
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Drakensson Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020
I don't think them sitting down, and drawing some pictures are gonna magically summon pedophiles to their location -_-
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020  Student Digital Artist
It won't. I did something similar in the past and they didn't appear in my location. But did you know what happened? I got groomed for two years straight by a 30 year old men because he likes my NSFW stuffs.
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:icondrakensson:
Drakensson Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2020
Groomed how? I'm not familiar with all the internet lingo.
What did they do and how?
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2020  Student Digital Artist
oof. I think it's better if we take this to chat or notes.
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:icondrakensson:
Drakensson Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2020
I don't really have the patience for a sentimental long life story.
We'll just move on :)
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:iconma-harani:
Ma-Harani Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2020  Student Digital Artist
oof
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