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Mini rant: My art gets ignored because of Eclipse

:iconcrescenti-c:
Crescenti-C Featured By Owner Edited Jul 25, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I posted my most recent art an hour ago. It's good quality and not shit, I'm certain of that.

Wife by Crescenti-C

And yet it has 0 favourites. Zero.

If this was old dA, I'd get like 10-15 favourites in an hour.

Meanwhile my Instagram with the same art has 16 likes and 5 comments and counting.

What the fuck is going on??

Fuck you Eclipse for killing my exposure.

Fuck. You.

Rant over. carry on. Art whore if you want.
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:iconcapndeek373:
CapnDeek373 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2020  Professional General Artist
Everybody’s art is getting ignored because of Eclipse!
word origins by CapnDeek373
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:iconkspmill:
Kspmill Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I blame eclipse
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:iconrathaloshunter16:
Rathaloshunter16 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2020  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I barely got faves in old DA and comments are very rare. And I feel that I don´t  get faves like at all in Eclipse which sucks. Though, I am not best artist or that known. Almost all my watchers seem to be ghost ones.  Kinda terrible combination.
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:iconmasterplanner:
MasterPlanner Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2020  Professional Artisan Crafter
It's probably because so many people just up and quit dA when eclipse was rolled out. :B
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:iconthisullysses:
ThisUllysses Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Your artwork is fine, Im experiencing the exact same. I was never popular on here, I was just happy with 3 - 8 faves, a comment or a dozen views maybe. But since eclipse I have probably had maybe... Less than 10 faves in total no comments so definitely a drop.

Upon looking at everyone else's comments, we are not the only ones getting this.

To be honest at the end of the day, the views, the faves, the comments. None of it matters, but it is nice when you have spent your time doing something and someone who it wasn't intended for goes out of their way to say they like it.
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Jachalke Featured By Owner Edited Aug 9, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah same, I maybe gained 1 or 2 watchers(actually having a net loss of watchers though lol) since eclipse and I basically doubled my deviation gallery. Honestly I might just deactivate and move on, I hardly come here anymore anyway...
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:icondadudetdm:
DadudeTDM Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2020  Student Artist
Nice job, and i agree eclipse kills most chances of smaller DA artists getting noticed, unfortunately. Only if deviantart can fix it soon..
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:iconuriak:
Uriak Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Seems the source of exposure has shifted. I was never too popular to begin with but yeah I've felt a dip. I used to peruse the site a bit passively, relying on groups, but it goes only so far. Eclipse has been suggesting me many artworks I wouldn't have seen, but in a narrower range I guess, both topic and quality wise.

It's true it has become difficult to find recent stuff that was not forwarded to you.

Hang on ! ^^
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:iconredfoxbennington:
Redfoxbennington Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2020  Student General Artist
Just shut up ok?
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:iconcrescenti-c:
Crescenti-C Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
👍 K
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:iconobysuca:
Obysuca Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Same for me too. I mean, my art's not the best, but going from a consistent 100-120 favorites per drawing, usually within a ~week of posting it, to getting 80 over the course of 3 months is kind of depressing. 

Usually after I post, I'll check the newest just to see how the thumbnail looks and I noticed Eclipse now makes you click through like four different tabs to even get to newest, so that's definitely gonna kill some exposure.

I also noticed the "load more" for groups I'm in doesn't work now (just sits there and greys the button out), so instead of 50-60 groups, I can only post in like 8 now.  Thanks Eclipse -_-
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Clouddander Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad I'm not the only one its happens to. You can click edit> random in the corner of that section and hope the relevant groups pop up
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Caynez Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Hey, cool art. Nice job. I feel your pain, because I expierence the same in march-may I was getting good views and exposure, but after a month break whatever I post don't get as much attention xD
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Angel-Tigercloud Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
With Eclipse searching is more hard, especially to sort by "newest", when searching for example for a specific keyword.

The default search often shows up older (more popular) deviations. Which I can see on my page, while more new ones get less faves & comments in total, probably because more people dont use DA anymore or less frequent or different (like the message center is messed up, I dont look at it anymore)
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:iconinvisiblesniper:
InvisibleSniper Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2020  Student Writer
Well eclipse is slow
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:iconcrescenti-c:
Crescenti-C Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
^ that’s true
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:iconqumiies:
qumiies Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Before Eclipse, I already didn't get a lot of exposure because I was new and inexperienced with art in general. But once I started getting into the flow of things, I did start getting more favourites and watchers. Once Eclipse hit, I didnt really see a change in how many favourites I was getting, mostly because I think that people didn't realize how bad DA was in the beginning of Eclipse. At the same time, during this whole thing, I went from having probably 10 watchers to getting 85. On the other hand, my amount of watchers and favourites I've been getting have been declining drastically. I used to get at minimum about 5-10 likes on a post, to getting 1-5. The rise and fall of watchers is really disheartening, because while I've been improving on my art, my support (watchers) haven't really been there for me. I had some pretty close friends on here too :< 
It could be that everyone is leaving DA due to the fact that they made Eclipse permanent, and they don't want to deal with its crappy interface anymore. 
But I am glad that I have at least 1 person favouriting my art everytime I post, which is more than I can say for other people, and that's really sad. Because the people who deserve more favourites than me, aren't getting the exposure they deserve :<
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Crescenti-C Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My tumblr and insta are doing fine it’s just dA that’s crap.

I don’t blame those who left.
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Amber2002161 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2020  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've always tended to avoid the home page even before Eclipse came into effect. I also tend to just draw for my own pleasure, since most of my watchers don't talk to me.
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:iconbrianbm100000:
brianbm100000 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2020  Professional Traditional Artist
I am an artist

I dont know any real artists who need validation that they are any good

I dont know any real artists who make art to be liked

I dont know any real artists who have to be the centre of attention

I dont care for likes I dont need to be liked and I am not depressed if I am not liked.

I am a good artist I know this to be true, I see likes and followers as irrelevant and a waste of my attention and my time.

I am not here to make friends I have more than enough friends already.

I did not even notice it when I was moved to eclipse.

I make my art because I want to make a statement and my art makes that statement whether it is seen in here or not. I dont make art to be seen. So I dont bother showing it in here.

My best art would not even be recognised in here because it cannot be seen digitally it is solid and three dimensional and that cannot be shown or represented in this flat and two dimensional unreal world of the internet.

A digital form of my best art lacks correct colors lacks intensity lacks vibrancy lacks form lacks substance lacks existence and is worthless.

It is a privilege to make art. It is a privilege to have this site on which to place art. It is a privilege to be able to chat to real artists in here.

Thank you DA members for being here and thank you DA for making it all possible.
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:iconrhiethreal:
Rhiethreal Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
You: "I don't need attention."
Also you: "Here is edgy post, plz give attention."

In the same post, no less.
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:iconbrianbm100000:
brianbm100000 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2020  Professional Traditional Artist
Are you sure you know how to read
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:iconrhiethreal:
Rhiethreal Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Can we really be sure of anything?
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:iconcrescenti-c:
Crescenti-C Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I get where you’re going, but to be ignored about something you’re passionate about really hurts nonetheless. 

How do you think historical artists felt making nothing off art they’re worked on for days/weeks? Many ended up committing suicide because of lack of worth.

to those who rely on their art for income, exposure and attention are very important. I know there must be passion, but there needs to be appreciation too. It’s what keeps artists creating.
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:iconbrianbm100000:
brianbm100000 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2020  Professional Traditional Artist
No
Artists committed suicide because of poverty misery and insanity or by others hands.
Van Gogh did not kill himself because of feelings of lack of self worth he in fact did not kill himself at all. He was shot by accident by the 16 year old Rene Secretan.
You are imposing your view of the world upon the facts. You are supposed to use the facts to reach your view of the world not the other way round.
Mark Rothko killed himself after becoming successful that is hardly due to feelings of lack of self worth.
Some artists did as you suggest but he majority killed themselves because of failed love affairs or to escape torture.
The idea that artists kill themselves because of lack if self worth is a popular myth.
There are millions of starving artists around the world why arent there millions of suicides.
Artists are hurt by lack of success that is true but they believe their work is important or they would not be making it. An artist needs to live in order to work.
Artists dont believe they are a pathetic artist because people dont like their work they believe the public is stupid for not liking their work.
People who dont like my work do not make me want to kill myself they make me want to work harder and educate them.
When someone says my art is worthless I burst out laughing at them and their stupidity. Artists are not humble and uncertain they are conceited.
You dont kill yourself because you might die from being unrecognised. Instead you shout from the rooftops YOU STUPID PEOPLE LOOK AT MY FABULOUS WORK and keep working.
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:icondrakensson:
Drakensson Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2020
Dikk dikk dikk in yoh stretched-out ehssho!
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:iconr03master:
R03Master Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2020
Same here, although not quite as noticable because the people that look at my art tend to already be searching the tags for that kind of art.

Definitely noticed the lack of favorites after the Eclipse switchover, though.
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:iconcanttel:
canttel Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i feel like most of these artists complaining about not getting page attention are the ones that are used to never doing anything and people coming to them (from tags/fanart ect). now when this site changes they notice because they are used to never trying to put their stuff out there anyway.
nothing has changed for my page and i am still submitting to groups every upload i can. linking my DA account every site i join, replying to comments ect. adding very relevant tags and just being active in general on the site. this would be completely different if you where doing those things and not just dumping art on here and ditching.
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:iconduckswim:
duckswim Featured By Owner Edited Jul 30, 2020
It is sadly a general issue and a major ongoing disaster.
The primary thead in the core forums is over the same issue

But it remains ignored by dA to this day.
Whatever their experiment may be, the practical effect is to choke the site.

Putting categories back and workable filters in is likely the only possible hotfix by now to get some sort of activity and traffic going again, while Eclipse does whatever their other plans may be. But again, they seem hellbent on trying the turn into ghost town route.
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:iconlepietton:
Lepietton Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2020
Eclipse has killed this site
I used to browse art everyfay, now I only come once per months and only to the forum (to see if there are news about Eclipse being cancelled anytime soon)
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YangXiaoFan457 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
Hope you feel better after getting it off your chest.

But I think you should look at more positive things like how you have saved patients lives with your medical skills.
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:iconcrescenti-c:
Crescenti-C Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
???? Um how the fuck do you know that about me?
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YangXiaoFan457 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know you on a personal level but I know that the majority of us are joining the battle against COVID-19. Almost everybody here is a key worker. I am one myself.
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:iconespyfur:
EspyFur Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You published it two days ago. Maybe be more patient?
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:iconmc-goober:
Mc-Goober Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2020  New Deviant
I prefer the old site for many reasons. Eclipse is slow on my computer. A lot of the changes seem worse all in all. 
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:iconhideshisface:
HidesHisFace Featured By Owner Edited Jul 27, 2020
And what do you expect?

Now the default homepage opens with "recommended for you" that half the time shows people from your own watch list and updates at snail's pace. 

There really is a very little chance that someone will notice your artwork when it is uploaded, because the "newest" option is buried in a "popular" tab, making it literally the last option available on top of that. 
You have to actively search for newest deviations.

The lack of categories means people can't even search the newest artwork in reasonably narrow spread, and hashtag system works pretty badly on top of that.

You could try uploading in groups... but guess what, they still have not been updated to be compatible with Eclipse either.

Oh, and even the people that watch you don't get a decent notifications, because uploads are now separate from other notifications and you literally DO NOT get notified - both options are also FAR apart, so there is little incentive to even notice it is there. I myself haven't used that option in months. More additional, redundant clicking for an option that was neatly placed within notifications I checked every day.

It is almost like this half-baked, horribly designed mess called Eclipse should not have been released.
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:iconfessor2000:
fessor2000 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2020
Very much this...

The new frontpage layout is absolutely horrible. It's so curated that users are never exposed to anything new. It's just more of the same.
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Avriia Featured By Owner Edited Jul 27, 2020  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm having the same problem here as well. I usually get 30-50+ faves  withing 2 to 3 weeks. My recent Naruto fanart, that was posted two to three weeks ago, only has 12 favorites.
Six Fanarts Challenge #5 - Naruto Six Paths by Avriia  

It's sad...I feel like this is no longer dA's algorithms fucking with our art anymore.
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:iconblackcapbandit:
BlackCapBandit Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2020  Student Digital Artist
Same problem. Spending a lot of time on a drawing and it not being noticed by anyone is kinda disheartening.
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:iconwrost:
wrost Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just came back from a long hiatus could someone explain to me what Eclipse is and what it’s done to the userbase here on DA? Thanks in advanced! :D 
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:iconthatwaslefthanded:
ThatWasLeftHanded Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2020  Hobbyist
Eclipse is a codename for the design overhaul that took place back in May.
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:iconwrost:
wrost Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! Did some digging and I guess that itís a pretty shitty update? Ignoring Beta testers, breaking views and being a generally terrible user experiences. What a bummer!!
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ThatWasLeftHanded Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2020  Hobbyist
It works fine for me :shrug:
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:iconkspmill:
Kspmill Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2020  Hobbyist Digital Artist
even if you have a hamster-powered wheel in place of heart, u still would say it work well for you...

you won't trick anyone, you just trolling
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ThatWasLeftHanded Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2020  Hobbyist
I'm not trolling :lol:
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Dev807v Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2020   General Artist
Idk. I have always had low exposure. I've noticed a sharp drop in likes tho, since Eclipse has came out. 
Oh well. B E A N S 
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:iconparamount99:
paramount99 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2020
DA probably getting funding for pushing on the lefty woke bots on forums.... 
So why they need art...........
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ThatWasLeftHanded Featured By Owner Edited Jul 27, 2020  Hobbyist
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