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Is this art ?

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believeinya Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2018

I can for the life of me not see anything special about this image.

I mean I like it. I have no special relationship to Warhol but I like John Lennon.

But this is nothing but a very neutral portrait, done with cheap equipment, is it not ?

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arcana-nan Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Why wouldn't it be? Just because its done with crappy equipment? A lot of art is made with crappy equipment. It might not be art you like but I'm pretty sure it's still art...
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believeinya Featured By Owner Edited 2 days ago
Its not just crappy equipment, I can also see no artistic creativity. Its just a very neutral image.

And yes of course you can make art with poor equipment. However some art forms suffer from poor equipment more than others. For example a violinist, no matterhow good (s)he is, will not be able to sound as good on a cheap instrument than on a Stradivari. And while there are tricks to get much more out of a camera than it officially manages, see for example on YouTube that pro photographer poor camera challenge, there are limits to such trickery.


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Ammsterdamn Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, any photo is an art by definition. I think it's not the question of whether it's art "in principle", but rather "how much" of an art it is.
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LisaLovelyLPA Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2018  Professional General Artist
What would make it more art ? ( "how much")

Is the complex , more art, or is the utterly concise and simple more art ?

Winks
Lisa
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Ammsterdamn Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Maybe some background would make it more artistic. Photos of people taken in some place (for example their habitual place, where they spend a lot of time of their life) look much more alive. Otherwise it looks like a passport photo:) But it's still art.
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LisaLovelyLPA Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2018  Professional General Artist
Yeah , like John on the beach with the Beatles playing , here comes the sun as the clouds break and the waves crash in the background ( smile ).

Given he is a famous guy , there is something slick about just having a very simple picture of him.

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Lisa
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ArtisanTheGod Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
These days people have literally vomited and sold it as 'art'.

At this point, anything can be art.
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GameTrek Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2018  Professional General Artist
art is artifacts. People do not buy things for the term alone
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ArtisanTheGod Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol
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LisaLovelyLPA Featured By Owner Edited Oct 12, 2018  Professional General Artist
Well , there was a story I read of a zen master that framed two worn white socks and it was in an art show and few people got the message but the whole thing was about simplicity and the every day things that make up life , like owning and wearing a pair of white socks , that start out new and then get dirty and stretched and start to show wholes.

It’s life right there framed , for all to see.

The vomit would be too gross for me lol But vomiting does bring one to a certain humble state of mind and when you do look at it in detail , you see all those things you ate that seemed so good and tasty all presented in its fundamental , digested form.

Makes you think , what was the big deal eating all that stuff ?

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Lisa
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ArtisanTheGod Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
O my insightful xD
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VisualStripes Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2018  Hobbyist Photographer
It's a simple portrait. Call it art. Whatever
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GameTrek Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2018  Professional General Artist
Art = artifacts. Your room and everything in it is art. Including your home.

Portrait photography =

1. usually tells a bit about the subject. Helps ID them

2. Another variant of a head-shot.

3. Does not need to be a head-shot stand alone.


About Polaroid look.

Polaroid model test usually shows off a person looking decent enough via that standard. Because a Polaroid camera. Instamatic or whatever. Polaroid is a brand like Wacom. As how many people call pen tablets wacoms.

These camera are good to get a decent basic image of somebody at a specific moment and in all honesty can be replicated. However the way the image is printed can not.

Even if taken care of these can crack over time and turn to dust. I have many from years of pictures from my grand mother and her one shot camera.
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What special about this?

1. The guy is a well known figure and iconic celebrity.

What is a celebrities. These are people that everyone will listen to right or wrong. Just by following them or listening to them. Take Madonna and the clones that follower her. However Louise Ciccone "Madonna" was born into a family that was already wealthy ( thanks to her father being an engineer in mechanics in automobiles ), and wherever she got her money to fire her career up that is still up for debate but it has been found nude ( artistic ) photos of her.

That is why the picture ( head-shot ) is really consider anything near art at all. You could put it on a poster and mass produce it and it would sell thousands of copies.......................

You have to understand that pictures means many things to many people
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Down-Flower Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I think if it evokes emotion in just one person, then it is art.
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AlyDreamer Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Of course it's art. Just because it may not seem like good or impressive art doesn't mean it's not art
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LisaLovelyLPA Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2018  Professional General Artist
Plus 1

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Lisa
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IRHappie Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2018
The article itself was much more interesting than the picture. The things that he said about John Lennon in that picture could be said about any picture of him from around that same time.

The whole "Double Appeal " tangent where the writer talks about his own experience as a magazine columnist was written with more nuance than what Andy Warhol did with his camera there. Definitely not Warhol's best work.

This sketch done by Warhol has far more energy: www.artsy.net/artwork/andy-war…

The thing about modern art and galleries is that as long as you're in the club it's inherently art. Exhibit A, Marcel Duchamp's Fountain:  www.phaidon.com/resource/newfo…
It's just a urinal that he wrote his name on nothing more nothing less. He put more effort into the artist statement then he did on the piece.  
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Nighteba Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes it is, but this isn't art of amazing quality...

A toddler's drawing is art as much as Le Radeau de la Méduse : the QUALITY differs!
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BrandonH9895 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Mabey it is just my computer, but it looks like there is a small manipulation from that picture. Perhaps compression. If you see around his head, you can see it is slightly darker, which fades, and shows there is a light directly in front of him (Not from the side)

So the person at least tried. It may not be with the best camera in the world, but at the same time, anyone can actually take a bad camera and make good if they know technique. At that point its the question of is there a definition what art has to be....

Take a photo of Rosmary wrapped to a lemon slice on a nice background. Its artistic and artful, but its just food. Does it still make it art? Its a matter of thought.
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Symbiote-God Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2018  Professional Writer
It's John Lennon. Of course it is.
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watermarksun Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Well its got a chill wibe, not legit art tho
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FallisPhoto Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2018  Professional General Artist
It is entirely a matter of opinion. It might be considered art by some, but it is documentary photography, not artistic photography. There just isn't much about it that can be considered artistic.
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Captain-Marmote Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2018  Hobbyist Photographer
Think about what statement Warhol is making by photographing John Lennon in this way. You kind of answer what the statement is in your question, but thinking about why will bring more significance. 
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Drawometric Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2018
I guess it's age saves it, it's just touching vintage. I can see people wanting to collect that. I'd say yes, barely.
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SaintPoe Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2018  New Deviant Hobbyist General Artist
It's a picture that belongs on an ID
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