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Reference + Reference from Google Images

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GabrielLoboDX Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018
I have a doubt about using some images as references due to high risk of Copyright (whatever it's a good pose that I really want or not) not just from Deviantart. I know that are some copyright free stock images around the Internet,but I can't find any image poses or anything "cool" that I really want (and most of them might be Copyrighted) on the Internet.
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tennysonwu Featured By Owner Edited Mar 13, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi Gabriel :wave:

You pose a good question :thumbsup:

I've considered for a little while now and the solution I came up with for myself was as follows:

If referencing a specific image, try to contact the image owner and ask for permission to reference with a promise to give credit and link back to the original image. (Obviously I don't then reference images where the creator has made it clear they don't want anyone to use their work).

Otherwise, for commissions or in general, I tend to look up a library of images for the subject type I want to paint and create something based on the collection of images I see, rather than any individual piece. Eg When painting a dragon borne, I google searched that term and created something based on an "average" of the images that came up.
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GabrielLoboDX Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018
Good advice :)
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AliceSacco Featured By Owner Edited Mar 13, 2018   Digital Artist
If you need to draw people, you can take photos of yourself, and use your photos as reference for the pose.
I used to do that.
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GabrielLoboDX Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018
Good hint :)
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kokamugithu Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
you can use references as long as you dont sell the stuff...if you practice a lot,it will build your muscle memory,next time you can build things yourself..

there are rules tho,that using reference is ok,to study shape and lighting mostly,but not to exactly copying it.for example if you draw a woman face from google for commercial product,you only draw a portion of her face that you need (like shading,mostly on the nose since nose are so hard to draw) and draw everything else from your muscle memory and anatomy reference.

if you want to start using reference photo,i suggest to see anatomy reference for a start, it will help you learn a lot :)
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GabrielLoboDX Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018
And what about if I use one of them as reference for a X commission as an example? I mean only use that pose inspired on that Y image and other parts will be made by pure creativity (no copying obviously)? Note: I don't do commissions yet, It's just an example.
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kokamugithu Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
if it's the pose only, thats ok.

as long as it's not tracing,or simply purely copying.people can tell the difference between artist referencing and artist purely tracing.
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GabrielLoboDX Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018
Another question that I'm a bit confuse about: are tracing and copying pratically the same thing (for me they aren't so much the same)?Because I didn't understand well

And also I will never trace any kind of work because tracing is cheating (a huge cheating and a terrible reputation loss for any artist).
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kokamugithu Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
tracing can be done manually and digitally,manually we just print it out an line it on our paper.

copying,as far as i know (i dont know if art thief nowadays can be more creative than me) can only be done digitally. it is literally just selecting one part of what we cant from reference and copying it right inside our piece.it is definitely prohibited... 

while landscape/environmental artist do tracing to create landscape from imagination (and there has been talk about whether it is ethical or not),for portrait artists this is strongly not recommended at all.
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GabrielLoboDX Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018
Thank goodness that I learned to never trace :D
So I feel a bit relieved and less worried now. Thanks for sharing ideas :D
I used Google Images searching for any rabbit/bunny image as reference for this:
Forrest The Rabbit 
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GabrielLoboDX Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018
Thanks :)
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