When I first did commissions, there were commissioners who tried to get me to do work that was worth a few cents each per image... Truly unprofessional "slave drivers" (but thank goodness I've never received anything like the example above and hope that this thread helps people avoid people like that ;A; )
(there's a person going around encouraging artists to lower their prices and I cringe at it ;;;; There's nothing wrong with a) practicing to improve until you can charge AT LEAST minimum wage or b) working a normal job and doing reasonably-priced commissions)
Average salary in the united states is 40000(I think its about the same in western Europe but I could be completely wrong ), so 2000 for 5 months would be WAY below poverty line in at least that area of the world.
As a junior high student, definitely. I draw most of the time during class[it helps many people with concentration], so I'd just spend the time on their art, rather than my own, and make the money on the side. For a professional, I understand not doing it, but for someone who isn't greatly skilled or paying for food, shelter, etc., that'd be a pretty good deal.
If they're expecting dedicated work, absolutely not Granted, if you're going to call yourself an "art slave" you're pretty much getting what you're asking for. Now, if it was 5 months of not completely throwing yourself into the project, and just random doodling in your free time with a couple of finished pieces... maybe. Can't say I'd put priority on this project. If it was something like five months to fill a single sketchbook of whatever doodles... yeah, perhaps. But $2K for five months of straight work is completely out of the question.
Right at the moment? Probably Any money would be good. Rationally, for me at least, I draw all day every day anyway, so it wouldn't make that much difference to how much I create, I'd just get some cash for it.
If I was seeking genuine employment, nope, not with a ten ft barge pole, unless there was a serious agreement as to the quantity and quality of work expected, because I could see it getting very unreasonable, if it was kept to a reasonable amount, then sure, 5 mths doing art works for someone for money would be fine, but it'd have to make min wage vs hrs.
I'd do $2000 worth of artwork in five months if the hours matched. Very roughly, I think that'd be two hours of work per day at minimum wage? It'd be a good side job. And at two hours a day it wouldn't be too terribly taxing on the wrist.
But if it was $2000 for working 40 hours a week for five months, no... Not worth it.
NatrinityFeatured By OwnerMay 1, 2015Hobbyist Digital Artist
No. Money isn't everything and those who sell themselves cheap, considering $2k isn't a lot, got a lot of self-improvement to go through and perhaps a huge change of perspective on themselves and their lives. I'd rather starve and struggle to survive than lower myself to the standards set by society and sell myself like that.
My paintings take me 4-6 months and most of the time i get 0dollars and max the ppl offer is 500dollars. So i paint for myself and take the money from comission portraits and artclasses. Artist is a hard way to live if ure not one of that: i sell my chibis for 500 dollars.
Considering I can get two or three times that working as a cleaner for 25 hours/week, which would leave me pretty much most of the week to do all the art I wish... no, I would not.
I understand that art is *very* important to some people, but is it really so important that you are willing to be so miserable (can't pay rent, can't pay bills, no time for anything else...) because of it? Especially if you're not even creating it for yourself, you're basically giving it away for free?
Minimum wage over here (Ontario) is around $11/hr, I started at $15/hr. A new graduate averages around here $20/hr around here (or so they say). So 1k a month wouldn't bad if you're doing practically part time. If you have to charge by the job rather than the hours think about "normally how long would this take me." If you think it will take you 8 hours, charge what you think 8 hours of your time is worth.
Internships, depending on where you live may pay you below wage or even nothing at all, but the important thing about those is remember you always need to get something out of it. Most internships will offer credits or special perks for their interns. Don't stay an intern for too long though, if you're doing stuff one of their normal employees do you ought to be promoted.
No. I get about $800/mo for drawing my comics, with nobody hanging over me dictating what I draw.
If you're going to do something like this, I'd suggest setting expectations ahead of time: this is how much art you get done in a normal month, this is how much money you get for it. Do the math; perhaps offer a slight discount but not a huge one.
Mercury-CroweFeatured By OwnerApr 25, 2015Professional Artisan Crafter
2k is worth 160 hours here absolute max, that's a month of 40 hour weeks at $12.50 an hour which an ok-but-not-great rate for minimum non-physical skilled labor (experienced secretary, customer service rep, etc) in this particular area where cost of living is fairly low to begin with, and that would still pretty much just cover rent somewhere cheap, utilities, car and health insurance, groceries and fuel with maybe a little bit of extra money to go out to eat or a movie once in awhile. And it certainly wouldn't cover any sort of art materials or unexpected bills (doctor/hospital/vet for example). I would maybe advise that someone inexperienced with little-to-no demand for their work and no name recognition consider that for 160 hours if it was really super simple art stuff that was very easy and required almost no effort, but only if they really had nothing better or more profitable to do with their time, needed the income pretty bedly, liked whatever they were to be working on and could benefit from the work experience.
Personally, I wouldn't even consider it for 160 hours of work of any sort at all, I'm a glass artist and $12.50 is maybe wholesale price for something that would take 5 minutes in the hot shop. That's why I don't do drawing/painting/etc to sell, it's nowhere near what I can get for considerably less effort in glass and much harder to sell, the worst that happens with glass is that the odd piece ends up sitting around in the gallery for a long time before somebody buys it, most of what I do is going to be sold at a show or to a gallery pretty quick.
I guess it would depend on the amount of work and number of drawings wanted. If it were just one drawing a month then I might accept, but I certainly would NOT accept $2k/£1k for a drawing a week for 5 months, it just isn't worth the cost of materials, personal time, artistic burnout and my wrist issues.