I know very well that the overabundance of hypersexualised women in media is extremely damaging. I think twice about what I draw. I make a point of drawing women with realistic proportions, wearing realistic clothing, and posing in realistic ways. I also don't very much appreciate art that fucks everything in favour of making a woman as sexy as possible. But there's a difference between not appreciating something and saying it shouldn't be allowed. Censorship doesn't really fix anything.
It would be bloody great, though, if artist would take a little responsibility, and show consideration for the impact of the shit they make. But no. Somewhere along the line it was decided that "self-expression" is to do whatever the fuck with no thought to the consequences.
Yes... There's no good reason to look backwards on that issue unless you choose specifically to do so to make a point with your artwork. The feminist perspective (that women are people, not objects) really ought to be the default one and not a special thing that you sometimes do.
I also think that neglecting to consider a you know... sensible perspective of women can negatively impact your product. Too often sexualisation comes at the expense of quality and good storytelling.
What actually makes something sexist is portraying one sex as unworthy of the other. Fetishism is not necessarily sexist. However wide sweeping generalization of a certain sex (eg women are naggers), treating writing or drawing of a character different according to sex (compare stances of female martial artists to males in Liefield's works) or demonizing supposed characterizations as constrained to one sex is sexist (good men cannot care about appearances, good women can't be leaders).
It is somewhat problematic, especially when women are portayed in impossible poses(the blog Eschergirls shows this pretty well), and it's also problematic for girls growing up being barraged with media like this all the time.
There is a difference between sexual objectification and being sexy. Superhero comics are a pretty good example of sexual objectification. No matter what occupation a female character is, they'll usually be dressing to display assets and posting like a model. Women are posed to please the viewer, not to clearly tell a story. Women rarely face their attacker with their FULL body, which leads to the painful boob-butt pose.
Though really, I don't have anything against fanservice other than the sheer glut of it right now.
No I dont think it should, art is art and putting any kind of restriction on it other than if its hurting other beings(I think its fine if you want to do some method acting and make yourself cry for photos but not to put a child through that, or to hurt animals etc)
I see many over sexualized figures of males also, I think it just tells you alot about the artist, the photographer, the model in general OR/and what their message is
I do not follow feminism, I believe in equality while still having dignified appreciation of the female form. I just feel people just using ridiculous looking figures for cheap views, not delivering a message or having artistic impact. that's all.
people should ought to put more thought into sexy model type women, However I question the extent between not being sexist and censorship, how about other forms of media, like videogames.
Your audience and your message to that audience should be considered when making art. What do you want to say to the world? You can say anything you want, but that will affect who your audience is and what people think of you as an artist.
You're assuming women drawn in a sexy way is inherently misogynist. Feminism is such a tricky and fluid ideal that you'd have to define it perfectly before putting forth the idea that all art should be feminist.
However, I don't think every piece of art needs to have a social/political ideal behind it.
No, drawings of over sexualized women IS sexism. Yes it's true that as you say feminism wants women to be able to choose how they want to live or what they want to wear, BUT that can not happen without said women suffering social consequences until we stop seeing women as nothing more than sex objects, and part of getting that done is to stop portraying women as such in popular media and art. It's not necessarily the sexy part that's bad, but the objectification hurts a great deal.
Drawings of over sexualized women don't make me personally view women differently in real life, at least I think so - but yes, I also think that some might do. Good point. Still I think that telling people what they can or can't draw is simply wrong - 'cause thats the whole point in creating art, isn't it? Creating something you like.
To make it short, the human brain works in strange ways and just because you don't believe you think a certain way doesn't mean you're not. I'm not saying you specifically view women differently, I'm just pointing out you might not be aware of your own bias.
If you see a comic cover portraying a woman, try picturing her as a dude in the same pose wearing the same clothes. If what you're picturing seam ridiculous to you then chances are it was just as ridiculous before you switched the gender of the character and you just didn't notice it. Female characters being portrayed in unhealthy ways has become so normal to most people that they notice it.
I never tried to tell anyone what they should be allowed to draw thought, but I really recommend being aware of what kind of messages you wish the audience to receive from your work both consciously and subconsciously. A constant stream of art that portrays women as sex object usually does mess with peoples view of women.
Okay, I approve, though I don't think that you can change much about how people often portray women - at least not in a short time span. Still I dont think it's "unhealthy", as you said, to portray women (or men) in over sexualized ways, only if really many people do it it affects the common view on women negatively.
I agree, change does not happen over night, only if we continue to speak up about what's wrong with society then slowly but surely it will happen.
When I say it's "unhealthy" I mean it's damaging to girls' and women's view of their own sexuality and body if the media around them constantly portray it as a positive thing that the female body is primarily there for the visual pleasure of men. The thing is, I do think the over sexuallization and objectification of women do happen far to often,especially in some industries like comic books, and as you said that affects the common view on women negatively.
We need to differentiate between a character that happens to be sexy, (like Faith from Mirror's Edge [link]) and a characters who's body is being portrayed by the artist in a way that is sexually objectifying. [link] (and happens to be anatomically impossible most of the time)