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Should I try to make due with my HP

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Witty--Username Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I want to go into the graphics field. I'm thinking game design. To be honest I hardly know anything about it. So if you've got any advice there that would be appreciated too, but my main question is if I should just work with the laptop I've got now, if I should upgrade, or if I should just wait and buy a new one?

I'm also interested in illustration and digital art as a hobby so I'd like my computer to be up to par for that too.

Right now I have a HP G62 Notebook PC
Processor: AMD V120 Processor 2.20 Ghz
64-bit Operating System
RAM 2.74 GB (Which I'm sure is not good.)

I'm only a junior in high school so I don't need the best of the best, but I'm aiming for a little above sufficient.
I know next to nothing about this, but I'm willing to learn. Any help? Worth updating?
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PR-Imagery Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You need a new system. Look at spending around $600-800 at the least for a new one.
You can add more ram to your current one, but it's not going to help much of anything that that gimpy little processor it has.

You do not want an Alienware.
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Witty--Username Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What do you recommend?

Why no alienware? I was originally thinking Mac, but keep hearing they're overrated.
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HeavenhairSixes Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
By beginner I wasn't trying to put you down - I just kinda meant that unless you are going to be working at a way higher level than me then 2.74 GB of RAM should be more than enough!

3D art is indeed an entirely different thing and would need entirely different software, different skills and superior hardware.

There are plenty of people that do great art with a Wacom Bamboo fun - it is a decent tablet and you would only need to upgrade if you got to a stage where you felt it was limiting you and understood exactly how. Never think your art will magically get better if you buy more expensive kit, it just doesn't work that way...

I have been using various versions of GIMP on various machines for years. I am absolutely certain that if you get GIMP from the official site it doesn't come with any viruses at all. I suspect your issue is that if you just google GIMP you will get offered a lot of downloads from various legitimate looking but unoffical sites that generally come riddled with malware - but to a greater or lesser extent that is the same for any piece of software and isn't a problem with GIMP itself.

Painter is great software though - if that is what you intend to use then that will be great!
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Witty--Username Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No. :lol: I know what you were saying. I know it wasn't a putdown. I was just trying to clarify a little.
I'm pretty sure I will be. I have a strong love for details and landscapes. Especially fantasy art and concept art.

Don't worry I learned that the hard way. Like they say "A beginner can make even a Stradivari sound bad." What's the art equivalent for that?
"A beginner can make even Old Holland look bad?" lol I don't know.

I'll admit I just have it out for gimp. I hate it, but hey whatever works.
I just downloaded trials of a couple. I'm really loving Painter 12 I'll more than likely end up with it. Considering splurging even though I know it's unnecessary. The oil paints are great on there! I'm going to play around with a couple first before I spend so much.
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CinderBlockStudios Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
for the time being you could see how much your can upgrade your ram. I imagine you won't get above 4 but it would be a start anyway.
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Witty--Username Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm thinking that's my most important thing for now. My computer already has trouble just running the net. Probably need to clean it too. :|
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CinderBlockStudios Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
what do you mean by "trouble just running the net?"
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Witty--Username Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It lags. I'm running firefox with no more than 3-4 tabs and it lags. It lags while running games too. I assumed it was RAM related. Am I wrong?
I'm questioning the previous owners methods too. It has something called utorrent and I'm not so sure this is geunuine windows 7.
As there's already a torrent of 8 they had set up. It was sold to my grandparents pawnshop. So I'm not expecting some issues, but I'm happy to have anything to work with at all.
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CinderBlockStudios Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
yikes!

Well the ram could be an issue, but also torrenting is sketchy at best. Sounds like there's a reason that computer winded up in a pawn shop.
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Witty--Username Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yea that's what I said. Besides the lag though it runs pretty well so there isn't too much damage to work through. Got a pretty good deal on it.
Especially me. Since it was given to me for free.
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CinderBlockStudios Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
well it could be worth a solid virus scan, a running of CCleaner, Disk Cleanup and Defrag. if it was never done.
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Ariiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
2.74 GB of RAM isn't necessarily bad at all, depending on what you're doing. You can probably upgrade it, though.

You can also upgrade the CPU in the G62, though I'm not sure about the GPU.

Will a desktop be practical in addition to your notebook? If it /is/ practical, a desktop would be much more powerful, and a better value, while you can use the notebook when you have to take it to your school, etc.
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Witty--Username Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've read that I'll need more to work with larger more detailed files. To run programs more smoothly, which I'd think is important. I really love to paint and I'm hoping to be able to make a little money off the side with commissions and prints to be honest, so I'm worried about resolution and the like. Figured that'll need upgrading though.

Not in the near feature. I'm going to be moving around, and I plan to travel afterwards. Though that is a good idea I hadn't thought of. I want an alienware laptop, if it works good enough for games surely its good enough for art?
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HeavenhairSixes Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
For 2D art you can start to use up a lot of memory by using large canvases with multiple layers and the like. But even so I have done a lot of nice digital paintings on systems with less memeory than that. Art software generally doesn't need the same kind of resources as high-end 3D gaming, especially for a beginner. That system should be fine to make a start - you just need a tablet and some software (GIMP is free) and get stuck in.

If you are talking about 3D modelling then you would probably want better specifications.
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Witty--Username Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thought so and I'm not a pure beginner, I've got my basics down. I'm just no where near mastery so I hesitate to call myself anything but a beginner.

Both, but I think it's best I just work up to 3D. I've been researching more and it's different than I thought it would be.

Got a Wacom Bamboo Fun. Old but perfectly functional. And all I need left is the software. Thanks for helping me clear up. Seeing as I loved painter so much when I had it, I'll probably go for it. Really hate GIMP by the way. Had a time removing the viruses that came with it.
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