Wacom is playing an almost monopoly game so they can totally charge premium prices. Also working on a 22" screen is a bliss.
Technically concerned, most tablet pcs have 256lvls of sensitivity while the Cintiqs have 2048 and the milligram-pressure is superior. To be frank, I have no idea what the milligram-pressure is and what differences it makes, I cannot see the difference in sensitive levels either and neither do most digital artists I know, but some do complain about such inferior of tablet pc. It also lacks tilt sensitivity but not all wants this so it's depend if tablet pc suits ones' needs.
The other thing you need to consider is the balance between productivity and portability.
As for me, tablet pc's are great and can totally get the work done but their batteries only last 2-3hrs in performance mode. I might also need another input device to access shortcut keys, which likely ruins the purpose of portability. Consequently I still need to stick with my workstation most of the time and only make leisure sketch on the go.
I think it's better for you to look up for resellers who charge minimal restocking fees to try the slate before making decision.
Thankyou for the advice. One thing I never considered also is the compatibility of Photoshop. I have a mac version and unless it is the latest version (mine is CS5) it cannot be swapped between platforms. Therefore a PC is out for me. I have opted to go for a Cintiq 12WX for the following reasons: 1. I am unsure if I need a 22HD model - I will zoom and pan more. 2. It is far cheaper 3. It should hold value quite well, so I can sell it when I upgrade (if i do).
I am new to Cintiqs and whilst researching them I found the following criticisms and my responses are below: 1. The brightness of the screen is fine - mine is set to 50% and it is comfortable to use. 2. The grainy look to the screen from the anti-glare. I think the picture is fine and looks good. 3. Colours are not bright - I am fine with that. Can't really tell unless its compared to another monitor. 4. The resolution is low - 800x600 is not bad ona 12" screen. 5. The pen jitters near the edges - it does by a small amount, but no where near as bad as I was lead to believe.
In essence I am really pleased with my purchase. I have bought a screen protector because I am unsure of the scratching issues I have read about - again, no problem.
Guess I can say I was. I had the chance to use a Cintiq 21UX at the workplace where I went for a part-time job. It was indeed nice experiences! Now I settle with a 12" tablet pc for a more all-around device. I love the fact that I can use it as a pc as well, the screen is also gorgeous but I really wish the resolution could go up higher for more screen estate.
podapandaFeatured By OwnerNov 25, 2012Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry, can't offer any help, but I'm actually thinking of this same decision (minus the first option). Reading the reviews, I'm leaning on going with the samsung ativ pro. Hopefully someone can come in and chime in if they have first hand experience with either.
This is a good option in my opinion, but I am not sure yet whether it is the best for me? Looking reviews I would definitely go for the ATIV pro (intel celeron and 4Gb RAM). Otherwise it seems to struggle with larger brushes. One key consideration is that it is entirely portable - but good enough for high quality artwork??? Are you in the UK?
podapandaFeatured By OwnerNov 26, 2012Hobbyist Digital Artist
for the ativ pro, it seems like a no brainer to me actually over the cintiq 12wx. here's what i found just from doing the research on paper:
- the ativ pro is a complete pc (with decent hardware it seems) - ativ pro has a brighter screen (400 nits vs 200 nits for the wacom) - far better portability (no power brick on the ativ which is present on the wacom) - bigger screen area for actual work (wacom starts to get spotty around the edges)
both have the same pressure levles (1024), but it'll be interesting to see how the s-pen on the ativ actually performs. i'll really curious to play with one myself before making the purchase. i don't know, it seems the cintiq is the standard in terms of pen on display, but i'm really wondering if these new tablets with wacom digitizers feel just as good.
btw, i'm in the US on the east coast. is the ativ pro readily available in teh uk? it seems pretty much sold out everywhere over here.
Hi There, I am fast removing the 12WX from the equation. I f I decide to go for a more high end, but fixed option I will got for the 22HD Cintiq. If not I will go for the ATIV - as you say, no real competition.
The ATIV exclusive to one store for another week, but they are offering a 5 year warranty and it is in stock! A good price too! The Wacom 12WX's problem around the edges worries me for such an expensive item I would want it to be perfect.
I need to weigh up whether the £1500 price tag is worth the 22HD and a PC - if not I will go for the ATIV.