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Computer obnoxiously slow - barely 2 years old, if that. Need help/suggestions.

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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
First and foremost, I don't wanna hear "it's cuz it's a mac" or "get a pc", or anything along those lines. I have a mac. I will always have a mac. I prefer my mac. I want a solution, not to be told to get a PC, please.

NOW that that's done and said;

I have scanned
I have defragged
I have updated
200GB out of 800GB used

I do not understand what the issue could be.
It ran completely fine about 8 months ago and before that, then suddenly it gradually began to slow down, and now it can't even keep up with my typing or with any games I play.
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xxxxxxChronoxxxxxx Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
how much folders do you have in your C drive (or mac equivalent) when you first open it
the less you can get away with the better but that's something that should be done when you first get the computer
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xxxxxxChronoxxxxxx Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
you probably have to many programs trying to start when the computer firsts boots up

in windows theirs a startup folder in the start menu and in the registry theirs a similar folder, anything in thoughts folders will try to start up all at once and you dont need half of them to start at all
mac should have something similar but i dont really know anything about macs

be carefull if you go to play around in the registry, if you do something wrong you will kill the OS and have to format and reinstall everything from scratch
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TheLegendofAge Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not a mac person but I can try to help out xD :

- I see that your Skype is outdated, you can try uninstalling the old one and install the latest one o;

- Drivers is another thing, if you're running on old old old drivers, it might help to install the latest drivers xDD

- You got it 2 years ago, knowing Mac, you should be fine for at LEAST 2 more years. For drawing, WoW, and Skype, you should be more than fine, and with 800GB of space who can complain? I'm not sure about your CPU speed though. I'm sure it's fine though. The worst case would be that you would need to reapply new thermal paste to the CPU.

- I'm also sure that you are responsible so you shouldn't have many viruses, but it won't hurt to get a scan right? lolz

- If push comes to shove, you can always take the emergency exit. Try to find something so you can format your computer and reinstall Mac. I'm sure that after the re-installation your Mac would run smooth o;
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Reimann Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah I'm trying to update everything
Noo there shouldn't be any viruses, I scan and don't go to any weird sites or download any weird things
D; it's making me really confused lol
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TheLegendofAge Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Again, that emergency exit saves lives ;D

But try that escape method after getting some way to transfer your files safely~
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xxMossfacexx Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
the mac/pc argument is irrelevant and stupid. Each has its strong suits. That's the end of it. Also, I suggest an external hard drive and/or upping ram. Graphic stuff on the computer makes it slower because it takes time to load, and every layer in Photoshop could potentially be causing it to slow a bit each time too. I do doubt this though. Keeping photoshop up to date TENDS to help with slowness too but on occasion they give out shitty upgrades. There have been a few times for me with PS whereI had to reverse upgrades because it just ran horribly after it all finished installing.

Also, you should go into your list of programs that are running when you turn on the mac, and see which ones take up the most computer space while running. Which ones cause the highest CPU usage.

If it keeps getting slow I would suggest contacting apple support.
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EquidnaRojo Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not sure how macs work, as I've always been a pc user (don't worry, I get the same thing about how everyone should own a mac so I won't make a comment like that to you) but I can at least offer some suggestions based on pc knowledge... I only used a mac for the year I was in college, and my mom is constantly begging me to fix this problem or that... XD; beyond getting the damned thing to connect to any form of internet, I can usually figure out her problem... granted she's one of those users who easily messes little things up XD; GAh! sorry for the rambling ^^;

Anyway, Definitely check your drivers like others have suggested. I had several issues with my laptop when it mysteriously disconnected itself from all of it's internet and wireless drivers. I contacted HP about the issue, and all I got from them was my motherboard needed replaced, which would've cost hundreds I really didn't have (or would have used to buy a new computer, instead, since it cost more to get a motherboard than I paid for my laptop in the first place XD; ) I also know through playing games on my husband's desktop that not having video card drivers up to date can cause problems if you get a new game....

I actually hope you can get the OnyX program LaBrisa suggested. It sounds alot like the Glary Utilities program I recently got over my third party freeware program fear to download. Maintenance programs can go a long way for helping a computer. I recently got my laptop running like a dream, or at least better than it was a few months ago... I did a huge clean up of old files, because I had 3/4 of my memory used, but the GU program helped clean it up enough I could run the disc burner which would cause my laptop to crash shortly after it started up ^^; it was pretty bad.

If all else fails to help, it might be something that just became corrupt with Photoshop, and you might need to uninstall and reinstall it if you can. sometimes this can help.

The letting the computer cool down suggestion might be a good idea to try as well.

XD; I'm sorry if it sounds like I just repeated what others suggested ^^; these are things I'd try with a pc if I was having problems, and they seem pretty reasonable. The only other suggestion I could make is looking at ANY forum you can by googling your problem, and reading as many posts as you can. It may take ten forums to find it, but someone always seems to have a similar problem with a off the wall fix that actually works. I do all my own troubleshooting, since we have very few to no computer repair places that even know what a computer is (let alone how to turn one on) and I've managed to escape blue screens for five years of fairly heavy use. Hopefully you can solve this problem, as it sucks having a computer that just doesn't work right ^^;
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DeenaCoulthard Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This happened to my computer, its not a mac but same problem. I did a lot of writing at the time so it was a real pain. Then it slowed down so much that I just left it off for like a week, let it run for like a full day and it been good ever since. Sometimes they just need a chance to completely cool off.
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm.. I'll have to try this once my classes get out
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D-E-V-I-A-N-T-A-R-T Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
I am not certain , but I don't beieve you mentioned if it's a laptop or a desktop , if it is a laptop , your battery could very well be the issue , as batteries start to die , they will effect things such as typing , games , etc.... to the point where typing is stalled by entire words , loading in chunks , etc... I have seen this with several laptops in the past...
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry, I coulda sworn I said - it's an iMac/desktop.
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D-E-V-I-A-N-T-A-R-T Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
No prob....
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CinderBlockStudios Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
go download and install ccleaner
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Nebulahart Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Student General Artist
It sounded like it is relating to CPU and RAM, since the issue is about the speed and performance, not the memory. I can't remember how did I improve my speed on my laptop. Maybe you can try poke around a little bit in your laptop to see that it might improve... Sometimes you do have junk files that can slow the performance down. Do you have any "cleaner" app such as Diet Disk app? If yes, then try to scan and find the worthless files. Mac do make backup of files and caches, but it doesn't always remove the temporary files.

I hope my suggestions might help a little bit!
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't have a 'cleaner' app, I'll have to look into getting one, thankyou c:
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Nebulahart Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student General Artist
Who knows that it might help? It's no problem! I hope the issue will be solved soon as possible! C:
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KyriaDori Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I don't know if anyone has said this stuff but ~ If your computer is running slow it probably has to do with your processor or memory. See if you can upgrade your hardware, like your core or your ram. I recently installed 4g extra in my laptop and it's running much smoother now. It's about the same age. I can now run WoW and Photoshop at the same time will significantly less lag. Not going to be doing Raids or anything with drawing but it certainly helps.

Also, if you are making photoshop files that are larger in scale, it does cause some lag. I'd start saving versions as you go and condensing the number of layers you have in one file at a time. This will help with slow program run time as well as a temporary fix.

4g two years ago was pretty good, now...not so much I found. Best of luck!
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But it's an 8G, it should still be fine D:
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xxxxxxChronoxxxxxx Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
8GB is more than enough unless your running lots of editing programs of other heavy programs like that all at once
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Mellomeme Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Update all the things.
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
xD I am tryinggg
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Mellomeme Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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vinio2323 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I don't own a mac, but I assume maybe changing your start up applications, and make sure your drivers are up to date and functioning properly. A bad driver can have bad effects on your computer. Hopefully you'll get it fixed soon.

I would like to say it makes perfect sense to have a mac, mac is for artists and PC is for programmers, that's just the way it is :P
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Everyone keeps suggesting drivers so I suppose i'll have to check them out D;
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vinio2323 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
well heres hoping anyways :)
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nokari Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
Is it slow at all times or only when you are working on files in Photoshop or using Skype?
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'd say probably 80-90% of the time it is slow. There's a rare few times it isn't, even when programs are running.
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pyrohmstr Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Artist
There are apps running in the background that are sucking up resources.

Browsers with a lot of tabs, Skype, and shit like that are where you want to start looking.

Check your startup apps to make sure you don't have a ton of stuff running when you start the computer.
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you I will see what I can disable on startup!
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
How much stuff do you have on your desktop?

Also, open up Activity Monitor and see if you can catch anything hogging a ridiculous amount of processes
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's not a lot on my desktop actually. 9 icons.
And it seems skype takes up about 50%, I may have to look into another messenger if it ends up being the cause D: !
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
What icons, and what version of Skype?
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
World of Warcraft shortcut, an Alias to my art folder, and a few spare text documents.
My skype is old / outdated. 5.1.0.935
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soojagoddess Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
I can't offer up better advice than what's already been given so um :) I hope it gets better soon! Keep us updated :D
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks, I'll try~
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soojagoddess Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
^_^ :highfive:
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I haven't used a Mac in years either so I couldn't tell you how to examine what processes are initiated at startup, but you almost certainly have something running that's eating up most of your system resources. It's not necessarily a virus, so a scan won't detect it. It might have been some legitimate but poorly written software you installed on purpose, that's doing something unexpected.

No, the number of files you have on disk has nothing to do with it unless you're trying to open them all simultaneously.
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I hadn't thought the files would, but I couldn't assume what possibly else it could be.

I dont have much installed on here either but I'll take a look and uninstall the ones I don't need anymore
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I wouldn't go uninstalling things just yet. Doing a bit of Google-fu, it seems that the sort of thing I'd want to look at would be the Activity Monitor. Follow the instructions for running it here: [link] and see if you have any processes that seem to be taking up most of your CPU or system memory. Don't force-quit anything unless you know what it is. You should be able to find out online.

CPU, contrary to the article, stands for Central Processing Unit. It's the main chip that does all the work. Usage will be shown as the percentage of time over the update interval that a particular process was being worked on by the CPU. If you have a multicore processor, a "naughty" process might be using up a whole core. In that case you may see it pegged at 50% for a 2-core CPU or 25% for a 4-core CPU. Otherwise, for a single core, a process might be taking up something close to 100%. Look for something like that.
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Everything is between 2%-5% except skype which seems to flicker between 10-50% S:
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That MAY be the problem then. Not definitely, but it's worth looking at. Try exiting Skype (or force-quit it; it really doesn't matter) and see if that helps. If it does, be sure to turn off the option to run it automatically at system startup or login, and then only run it when you actually want to use it.
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay, thankyou ; w ;~
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TwoToneFools Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Firstly! I have a Mac, so allow me to say: Rock on.

Now then... If you do not have OnyX, I highly recommend acquiring it. It's a fantastic utility that I've been using on my macs for about 8 years.

In my experience of computer slowing down-ness, the Permissions get whacked over time. It just happens. OnyX corrects permissions, and their paths, and all that fun stuff. O u O

Also check your drivers.

And tell me how many programs you run at once, and what programs they are. Which kind of mac and so on. Then I can halp moar.

I hope you don't get any assholes hackling you. I know the PC/Mac wars all too well.
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, ugh.. the Mac vs PC babble drives me mad. I know - you don't like Macs. I get it. Doesn't change that I like mine. I have no issue with your PC. Bah.

I'll most def take a look into OnyX and see if it helps! Thank you for the suggestion, here's hoping. ; w ;

I usually have 3-4 programs running at once.

It varies.

Usually a mix of the below ( *= Always open ):
Chrome* - Skype* - Photoshop / World of Warcraft - Safari for Netflix (rarely.) - And the Mac 'stickies' program for homework/notes. *
Never WoW + Photoshop, it's either or
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TwoToneFools Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
OnyX should take care of a lot of it, and also HALP with cleaning up your HD, like temporary files and what not. Good stuff.

I can tell you for certain right nao, that Photoshop sucks up the most memory - you know this, too. It's a heavy program. I won't tell which ones you should STOP USING while working in PS, just tell you what I gotta do with mine:
My Macbook Pro is like... a year old, with 700-somethin' GB HD blah blah blah, and I usually run Photoshop & iTunes. And sometimes, Skype. If I need to browse something on Chrome, I'll open it, then quit it when I'm done. This is mostly because of the heat - it makes a slight noise that sounds like LIFT OFF. So we joke and say my Mac has joined the Space Program, and I'll ask my friends if they'd like a shipment of Lunar dust. 8D Ah, I ramble...

Anyway! I am confident OnyX will take care of most of it! But your Mac is trying to let you know that you is WORKING A LOT OF STUFF and it's le tired. XD

(And WoW. Omg. You run that on its own, I hope. Such a processor HOG.)
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
xD Yes I usually run WoW on it's own, well, skype in the background but not actively using it..

I can't download it ; A ;! I have to figure out how to update my mac again from .7 to .8, i updated the software but it's not updating to .8... skdskfjsdlkgdg

Omfg my laptop does that lift-off sound, but it does it for hours on end. It's so obnoxious -flop-
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TwoToneFools Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Baaahahahaaa! Perhaps yours and mine can exchange Lunar dusts! I ran zBrush last night and started building a clay model - my macbook visited a galaxy outside our own. Exotic Lunar dust! XD

Well, shit. a;slkdfj Your mac is in a mood! Pet it and coo at it, see if that helps. rofl......

(Skype being open is still taxing something) QUIT ALL THE THINGS. lol Oh, WoW. I switched it to my PC so it wouldn't eat up my Mac. lol I just get really finicky. I draw and write on this machine (and if we're being honest) any program that was made by Microsoft, runs like ass on my Mac. Word is SO erratic and slow. Even PC fonts in Photoshop are laggy. ARRRRGH. B(
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
l-lmfao.. maybe they were communicating

I love my Mac to death but sometimes the programs can be so frustrating ; o ;....

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TwoToneFools Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I talk to mine frequently. And yeah, I understand the loving to death... I love my last one to death. It was an iBook G4. XD Battery pack died. Had to replace it once, then went through two AC adapters. Technically the thing still runs, but it lacks a power supplier. Sad, really. It was a good beast. Feels like a brick when I pick it up sometimes.

;aslkdjf Feels good to talk to someone else other than my best friend about MAAAAAAAAACS. ;A; Sorry I clogged your thread, though.
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Reimann Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll forever cry if one of my computers actually dies on me. I don't think I could handle the information loss, sdksjlfsdfs

Pshhh YOU'RE ALLOWED TO CLOG
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