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:iconthedjin:
~thedjin Jun 3, 2006, 9:58:33 AM
Hi, this is my first post here, yay! Ok, enough of that.

I have Photoshop7, and I have a major problem with it. Let's say I have a pic of... 800×600. I do a cool thing with it, I save the PSD and everething works like a charm. But then... I want to upload it here, or my blog, or somewhere and there's where the problem is. Well, actually not 800×600, but kinda 1024×768 and up, the image will deteriorate ENORMOUSLY if I save it as png or jpeg. I thought I was an experienced user, but I don't know what to do!!! I'd post the image as well, but I was too angry saving over ando ver again with different configurations [I even saved from the GIMP] and the only workaround I thought of was to save it a pdf, completely lossless, put it in fullscreen and take a screenshot. But that's not the way to do it, and I mean, Photoshop's supposed an almighty image manipulation software... but I can't have a decent picture ¬¬
PLEASE HELP!!!


PS: My monitor's depth is 16bit, and the image in psd is 8bit rgb.. i know it's 8bit per channel so it's actually a 32bit image, and my monitor will go to 32bits, but at 16bits it should display it fine too, since I can see it perfectly fine while it's in psd with photoshop.


PPS: sorry if this is too long... but I really need help with this :) Thanx in advance!


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:iconelectricjonny:
`electricjonny Jun 3, 2006, 12:59:02 PM
Could you explain the deterioration?

Whenever you make an image smaller, you throw out pixels, but if you're saving it as a .PNG, it shouldn't look like it's compressed or anything.

Just a thought, but make sure you have Scale Styles checked before you resize the image.
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~artbeat Jun 4, 2006, 2:33:45 AM
Well, there are few things - first, check the PSDs resolution, usualy the default resolution for the web is 72 pixel per inch, if you set higher it will not make any difference in image quality only change the document size. (same if you set it lower then 72ppi, the document size will change).
another thing, if you want to save an image the best format is BMP, it's a windows default uncompressed format and even though it's a large file usualy it doesn't lose any quality.
so, set your PSD document to 800x600 with 72 pixel per inch resolution and save it as BMP, it should work fine.

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:iconthedjin:
~thedjin Jun 4, 2006, 9:39:39 PM
Well, actually THAT is the problem :s

First of all, I´m not resizing the image, so it´s not that kind of problem. PNG is supposed to be lossless, and it isn´t! I mean, that´s part of my problem/question, cuz you´re right, it SHOULD be fine as ong... but it isn´t and I dunno why :(

Now,m I didn´t change the default resolution, so it should be 72 ppi, and yeah, just like the png, bmp is lossless cuz it´s uncompressed, and it STILL goes bad ;s

The description... it´s kinda weird: i´m on the foreground, I made 5 layers of myself, each with different transparencies and effects so they´re kinda shadows, or ghosts or somethingl like that. The background is a door made of wood, and I did a blur effect, a radial blur. Everything looks great in the PSD, and when I save it in any format [jpeg, png, bmp, gif... duh :p] EXCEPT pdf, the image is affected, but here´s the funny thing: the ¨main¨ me looks good, except for a place where should be a feathered transparency, but it looks fine, and most of the other me´s. Everything else [or actually, just the background lol] is degraded, as if I saved the image at 256 colors or used a very compressed jpeg setting... but it´s not the case, besides it ONLY happens to the background, which has the blurred effect.

If you want I can send the image. And thanks :)


Frustrated... :

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~capnhack Jun 5, 2006, 1:51:50 AM
firstly you should change your monitor to 32/24 bit colour (or millions of colours, depending on your os) since 16bit will not show you the image as its meant to be and this could be whats causing your problem. why it would work with some formats but not others, i dont know. perhaps its saving the pdf with a profile of your monitors colour palette included and its not doing that for the others. regardless, if youre seeing 'noise' on your blurry background then it may just be down to your monitors bit depth.

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~thedjin Jun 5, 2006, 9:14:44 AM
I changed to 32bit, the radial blur is displayed better, but there are still problems with the image... it did improve but it's not as it's meant to be, I know bit depth is important, but that's what I said earlier, it SHOULD look at least well, not perfect but at least decent... and it's still wrong at 32bit :(

Should I upload the image? I'm getting on my nerve here... :sniff:


PS. the main problem even at 32bits is a shadowy layer and some partial transparencies. the pdf will look good because it is actually lossless and supports transparencies, bmp doesn't so it looks crappy. but I don't want a pdf!!! :crash:

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~capnhack Jun 5, 2006, 9:17:03 AM
yea upload the image and ill take a look at it, im sure i can suggest something else once i see exactly whats happening.

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~thedjin Jun 5, 2006, 10:53:05 AM
there it is, I just put it there. [it's a scrap]

and... should I upload how it should look like? [a screenshot of the pdf]


I'd normally wouldn't ask such obvious questions, but rite now I'm on dial-up so... unless it's necessary hehe... damn slow connection... :upset:

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~capnhack Jun 5, 2006, 1:17:40 PM
no need to upload the pdf, i can see all the noise on the shadow. unless you added noise to that layer yourself i cant really see what would be causing it. maybe you can just gaussian blur that area or change the blending mode?

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~thedjin Jun 7, 2006, 3:30:59 PM
no no, I did added some noise but not THAT noise, I mean the part of my hair in the left part of the picture, it's like if I cut it with scissors and pasted it, not a gradual transparency.

and the background is one big blur [radial] and looks degrated :(

And wat I meant is that I can upload a screenshot of the pdf, not the pdf itself ;)

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