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Show Me Some Art "That's Bigger Than YOU!"

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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I really enjoy the artistic fellowship on Deviant Art. It is a pleasure to have DA on an open web tab while working from my studio and watch what others are creating in real-time, at all technical levels, media, and styles. I especially love artists who have a sincere purpose driving them to create artwork, outside of the general passion for creating. I believe God gave mankind the ability to create so that we could understand why He creates. And if you are in touch with your spirit, Your Supreme Creator, if you know of your higher-calling, what you create is only as important as why you created it. Who is the glory for? If you create for something bigger than yourself, I want to know about it. I want to watch you. I watch a growing number of artists who have mastered the art of pleasing my aesthetic preferences, and that is well and good. But I really want to watch artists that are "doing" something with their art. Their art clothes the naked, feeds the hungry, builds hospitals, educates, inspires productivity, strengthens the family, communicates truths, passions, love, and more. Those artists will receive so much support from me, they will think I am their personal paparazzi.

So, if you feel your artwork meets that criteria, either in its subject matter or in its mission (maybe the sale of it, regardless of the subject matter, raised money for a charity)share with me a thumb or two (more, if you really feel ambitious)! You MUST explain in a few sentences what your artwork "does" beyond "bring joy to those who view it"...and for bonus points, what you future goals are with your artistic career. Impress me. Not only are you looking at a potential watch and faves, but also features- and I don't mean just on DA. I have a much greater audience outside of DA, including an eNewsletter with an extensive mailing list. So it just might be worth your time to do more than just copy-paste some thumbs, in fact, you'll have to in order to get my attention! Technical merit is good, but not as important as the motive. You do not have to return a watch or a fave, although that is always a pleasure. Not into coercive watching.

Unleash it! And thanks in advance.
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Kefka750 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist


This just happens to be my most recent piece, but underlying themes in my work is the separation of the self, the spirit, thinking vs being, existence so forth. I'm not sure if that meets the criteria you want exactly or not, but in my galleries there's an entire sub gallery devoted to my personal works which visually might be the direction you're trying to examine. Or I'm just babbling. Whatever really.
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
It could be what I'm looking for...you are examining a series of topics with your art that are interesting in themselves- I'm just trying to discern why- what motivates you to do so. How does your work on the "separation of the self, the spirit, thinking vs being" help others directly or indirectly? What are we learning about ourselves in viewing/examining you work that helps us go on to achieve greater depths of understanding and impact others positively? It certainly is visually spectacular, but that alone cannot meet the criteria, though it certainly helps the success of your mission. So what is that mission?

Thanks for your response.
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harkins Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Good thread. I'm interested to see what people post here as well. Unfortunately the work I do now is just to try to get a job in the game industry, so I won't post anything. However, I hope I can get to the point where I can be successful and start doing artwork for others.

Right now though, I'm a total starving artist lol.
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks for appreciating the direction of this thread. And your response brings me to a good topic to discuss. I think a lot of people probably don't respond to this thread for the same reasons you gave. Because those of us artists in the USA (not to the exclusion of other bad economies out there) are having such a rough time, sometimes we get bogged down and decide to do work that pays the bills, not the work that our spirit spills. And for many of us, success is measured by our income as an artist, which, if it is less than the cost of living comfortable, validates the "starving artist" comment.

But you can't wait until you become "successful" to "do (art)work for others". According to the recently passed Zig Ziglar, in order to get what you want, you have to give enough other people what they want. Success comes when you help others succeed.

It's about contentment and connection, too. Right now, you describe yourself as wanting to get a job in the gaming industry. I know you can. Despite the fact you did not post anything, I looked at your gallery anyway, and I see huge talent. Huge. I don't think it is a matter of "if" you will get employed in your chosen career, just a matter of "when". And I will tell you when. As soon as you remedy the disconnect you have between what you are doing now (that you consider work for yourself) and what you want to do (work for others...then a gaming company will look at you and not just see a great artist, but someone committed to serving others with his talents. As long as they see someone whose greatest goal is to collect a pay-check so that one day they might theoretically do work with a greater "cause", they will see that you don't view what you do with them as being a "cause"...and I can garantee you that any reputable gaming company (or any company in any industry) want people passionate about their product or service- right where they are. The money doesn't move them. Loving others and wanting to improve the quality of life for others motivates them. And those guys don't complain about Mondays, they hate calling in sick, they show up earlier and work late. And that's how they get very successful, and as a side benefit, wicked wealthy.

So I encourage you to reassess what motivates you. There already is a great "mission" in your industry- and that is to entertain people. To have families come together and play games with each other, traditionally and digitally. So the best companies produce the best products by suggestion of their audience, calling for better graphics, gameplay, etc, etc. Because they answer those needs, people keep buying, the industry grows. If you go beyond telling your employer you have the technical merit they are looking for and tell them how you are going to answer the needs of thier customers, then you will know you are serving others. And the money will follow. And then you can look to continue to serve others with your art in other extensions outside of the gaming industry because you'll know what success is.

And you won't be a starving artist.

Now, I re-prompt you to tell me about your art and how it can serve/will serve others. The answer was already there. ;)
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mihaimcm94 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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:iconemilysodders:
emilysodders Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Sorry! I seemed to have missed your post and I see it is over a week old! Very sorry!

These are great photos. Would you enlighten me as to how they help others? Thanks!
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Please discuss how these meet the criteria! Thanks! :)
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Space-Wizard Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks. Would you be so kind as to explain how this art fits the criteria? :)
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BlueSoulber Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Can you please explain how this image meets the criteria? Thanks!
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lunaSerene Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Filmographer


Well I thought that it was really interesting what you said about creating a work bigger than us, that we have the gift to create something meaningful and important. Well I confess that I don't think this is amazing but this work is very special comic book I have been working on "Heart & Soul" because it happens around the time my country, Angola, was in a social war. The story develops as the characters try to reach they dreams and through the road they choose to go, they start questioning themselves if is worth it and if is what they need. Maybe one of the inspirations was because we artists are constantly trying to reach our dreams and there are times when I question if is what I really need... :heart:
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arbortechuser Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
A very thought provoking post. Thank you for sharing it, and I hope that the book helps to perhaps heal some wounds.
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:iconlunaserene:
lunaSerene Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Student Filmographer
oh thank you for the kind words, I also hope that my story has this impact with the audience :pray:
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm glad you responded. I believe your work would help other artists do some real heart/soul searching about their creations- and that's basically what I'm trying to encourage with this thread. To dig deeper in search of what your calling is in what you create. So thank you. I will watch!
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lunaSerene Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Filmographer
Thank you for the watch, watch you back :la:
I am glad you find it good and that it could inspire others people too, its something I am trying to achieve as well.
Will try not disappoint people :dance:
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I know you won't disappoint! :) *hugs*
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lunaSerene Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Filmographer
:tighthug:
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:iconjosegoncalo:
josegoncalo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Can you please explain how this meets the criteria of this thread? Thanks!
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:iconjosegoncalo:
josegoncalo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:) tl;dr;
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:iconemilysodders:
emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Seems kind of a foolish way to get your artwork seen. In a thread such as this one, it actually works against you- as it gives off the impression that "it's all about you"- and this thread is for artwork with a completely opposite theme.

I appreciate you wanting to be part of every thread on the thumbshare forum, but spamming it can lead to awkward moments like this- where you turn people off your art.

Hope that was a lesson well-learned, if you take the time to read it and show concern and courtesy for others.
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josegoncalo Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
again tl;dr;
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I bet you are reading it, it's just easier to play dumb. But then again, you don't need to 'play' at that, do you? Spare the forums of your presence, please. You are tirelessly inconsiderate and rude.
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josegoncalo Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:)
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:iconnarutokunobessed:
narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Student General Artist
I bet you can't read homestuck then.

Then again, I haven't either.
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DimensionSeven Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012

Enjoy! :wave:
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Will you please talk a little bit about how it fits the criteria for what I'm looking for? If you think the castle is "bigger that you" because of its size- you're taking the title literal and need to read my original post! lol ;p Thanks, though! It's a great shot. I would love to hear more about how it helps others.
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:icondimensionseven:
DimensionSeven Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
The castle is part of the hospital I work in, children are rehabilitated there.
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I see. Well, that makes all the difference in the world. I was looking for that significance. I'm surprised you don't mention this on the deviation page! ;)
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:icondimensionseven:
DimensionSeven Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I've mentioned it in part I.a - [link] :)
I have too many deviations... ^^;
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Then an apology is in order- as I did look at this shot too, but I failed to see that one line, or I just had a brain fart when I did. Sorry!

Anyhow, would you say the majority of your work has a "bigger than yourself" meaning to it? The answer to that question is irrelevant in whether or not I watch you, as I certainly mean to now. But as an overview of your work, I'm curious to know what deeply moves you. Your work is gorgeous.
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DimensionSeven Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
No need for any apologies. :)
Some qualify, most not. It's up to the viewer to decide which one is eye candy, which one has deeper layers. But I usually help in the description. (For example, my self portraits are always bigger than me, lol! :) )
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Very good. I look forward to seeing more!
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arbortechuser Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Damn I just wrote a whole passage down and lost it. :(



The brief version is that I believe that all of my sculpture is bigger than me. Two years ago I started to build a sculpture garden that I hope can be enjoyed by all. The main intention though was to give something back to children, and whilst the garden has large imposing pieces, I also have many fun small pieces hidden around the garden that only the inquisitive could find.
The garden is still a work in progress and will never be finished, just added to. My goal has in some respects started to become a reality, as not only have I carried out a demonstration weekend where I was making small wooden deer to children to take away and sand up, I was also approached by a local primary school that wanted to bring class visits to the garden to draw and discuss the various sculpture. This now looks as though it will become an annual trip.
Keeping this short for the moment... If over the years I just inspire just one child to create and develop art, then I have reached my goal. :)

I shall try and do an extended version over the next week.
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I think this project is great! And I can really relate with your goals, as I also work with children in inspiring them to create (currently instructing elementary school children on painting their own mural in the gym!)(reminds me I need to post that on DA!) But anyway, this certainly meets the criteria on several points- so kudos and a watch to you! I look forward to watching this unfold a world away!

Ps. Nothing creative is ever finished, merely abandoned! lol
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arbortechuser Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Many thanks. :)

Here is a thumbshare of some the army of little deer that I gave away to children who attended the demonstration weekend. For my point of view, I found it interesting that many parents could not grasp the concept that someone was willing and happy to give something away and not charge for it.



The feed back from children is great. They say exactly what they are thinking and have yet to be conditioned to say or do otherwise. Part of my inspiration for wanting to give something back, came from my time spent as a parent helper at my daughters primary school. I'm not sure who used to have the most fun, me or the children.
I do feel that the world would be a much better place if we all gave something back, however small that the gesture might be. :)
I look forward to seeing the photos of the school mural.
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Those are great! And children are naturally better at giving. I think giving to them just helps reinforce that, and hopefully if they keep that in their spirit, they will be just as giving if not more so as adults. Thank you for your contribution!
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arbortechuser Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
I hope that you don't mind me adding once again to this thread, but it has now got me thinking. :)

I feel in many respectsvery lucky being able to work with such a tactile material as wood. But because I want my art to be so much more than me, I'm very keen to bring the drawings and paintings by of others into 3D life. For sometime now, I have been carving a copy of a painting that was completed by a friend and this gave me the idea to expand the idea much further. A while ago I approached another forum user about bringing one of their drawings to life, and was told yes, but they wanted all rights, money etc and laid a load of rules down.
I decided there and then without responding that this persons attitude was not for me, as the idea was about fun and helping someone, not profit and ownership rights.
When this thread was started, my thoughts were re kindled about the idea once again.
This time though, I want to expand the idea much much further, and create a whole fantasy relief carving using as many 'younger' artists as I possibly can, from all around the globe. I'm sure that there must be loads of people out there of all abilities who would like to see their drawings develop further into 3D work, and I shall shortly start a thread to search for people to be involved with it. It's going to be a very ambitious project on my part, and could take years to complete, but already in my head I know that the result will be worth the effort. Once completed, I would hope that work could go on public display for everyone to enjoy.

I currently have these two pieces of wood in mind for the project, but this may yet change.



This is the kind of thing that I have in mind, but with more detail, and on a massive scale with many different scenes.

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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Sorry for the delay in response- my inbox is overwhelming right now! Which is good, I guess. But yes, feel free to add to your thoughts as you feel the need. The more I know, the more others know, the more likely such a project will come into fruition. I think it's fabulous. It's funny now that I reflect on the fact that I commented on those images earlier without reading this- and not knowing the full extent of your intentions were for them. Definitely brings it to the next level, for sure. Collaborations are magic. Carry on, friend! :)
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arbortechuser Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
The idea has kind of changed a bit now. :)

I couldn't sleep the night before last and was up at 3.30am. My mind was all over the place thinking about the collaboration idea, as stupidly I love a challenge, and need new ideas of work to keep me motivated and focused. :)
I'm now thinking of making this project idea much much bigger, and whilst I shall still use the piece of oak shown left above, my dream now is to create a forest of carved poles. Thinking on a World wide scale and using submitted art from both children and adults, the theme could become quite awe inspiring. Again in my head, I envisage that the forest of poles should be put centre stage somewhere, for all to see and enjoy.
Each submitted piece could be catalogued, so that the original artist could find their design amongst the thousands of others, and who knows, the idea could be developed into book form, with a series of adventures carved onto each pole. Developing it even further as I'm sitting here typing, maybe it could become sensory as well. In truth the idea is completely daunting and would require very serious thought.

Several issues concern me though.. The cost of material to carve from, tools are going to wear out very quickly, my joints may not cope with the amount of hand carving and vibration from the power carver (I'm a bit arthritic in my fingers) but my main concern is that people who submit art for it, may get impatient. Unless it could somehow be funded, I shall only be able to complete the work as when time permits.

That is certainly alot to think about. :)
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
It certainly is a lot to think about- but I like the progression.
Some ideas to help resolve your concerns:

Aside from campaigning the crap out of the project here on DA, where you should have no problem finding art contributions (I would suggest being at least moderately selective), once you have a decent following and have pushed the idea in your region, established a location, etc., I would campaign on a site like www.indiegogo.com to raise funds and perhaps draw in people with wood carving skills to share the burden of creation.

Shoot, I would allow an acre or two of land on my property for the project, but I'm on the other side of the Atlantic! lol
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student General Artist


I think one of things that people never realize is how ethnocentricism has reach a negative side in us and even American Christianity. These pictures are a result of Christians protesting against just people. At first I though it was at fanime which I was attending, but then when I showed the manga bible, they didn't really respond. They had pickett signs listing all the sins and things of that nature. Its funny because in a way, we just forget that we ourselves are sinners and are no better then they are. This was a topic that was really mentioned in Beware Christianity, where 4 college felt lost about American Christianity and try to rediscover what God really said in the Bible. If we list what we did wrong, and all the sins they have, how are we loving Christians and wanting to save them?

Ethnocentricism also less acknowledges the other party. Ive been a Christian and also a geek for a long time, yet not all the sins mentioned are not found in all entertainment. I try and advoid all the bad ones, but not all entertainment is bad. It encourages imagination and creativity.

And so these pieces are activism. Using the reminder that the album of the house of heros, the end is not the end, the words really ringed. No end is really ending, its a start of a beginning, and to move on forward.
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Maybe you have noticed that your response has gone unmentioned so far in the course of this thread. Perhaps you feel ignored over the past four days. I'm sorry if you do. The truth is- you responded so well to the prompt, I want to respond in kind, and I just haven't been able to block out some time to do it justice. So thank you for your patience.

These are some big issues plaguing Christianity. And I agree that going back to the Bible to determine what God really says about how His church should be is vital. Much of the confusion and judgmental attitudes certain 'christians' promote is the result of many generations of man-made creeds that claim to be Bible-based, but are not. A true spirit, the way we should view other cultures is summed up in Galations 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." If we are all one, cultural differences are irrelevant to loving on another.

When it comes to sin, which certainly needs to be dealt with- picket signs are ineffective. We are supposed to hate what God hates- and God hates sin. But God also says in Colossians 4:6: "Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone." When I see picketers, regardless of how noble their cause may be, the way they present their message in public, in your face, the last thing I think is how "gracefully" they are handling the issue, you know? It's rough, in your face, meant to shame you, which I think is the point you are trying to make. Romans 3:23 "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,..."

As Christians, we need to show the love of God by our radical views of equality and love of our brothers around the world, even our enemies. That's how we become the "light" and "salt" of the earth. Ethnocentrism, that uglier side and connotation of it, is suggestive of the break-down in understanding God's Word on the subject of love.

Otherwise, not really sure about the House of Heroes reference, if you would be so kind to define that. And to clarity: are these images of the picketters from the event you went to, or was this something you staged in response to them?

Again, thanks for a very thoughtful post.
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Student General Artist
Thanks for your thoughful post.

Otherwise, not really sure about the House of Heroes reference, if you would be so kind to define that. And to clarity: are these images of the picketters from the event you went to, or was this something you staged in response to them?
Well ok, its easy. House of heros are Christians and they do awesome music, but its not always christian, but they can have themes that are Chrsitian. They are my favorite band and my Go to playlist is their album, The End is Not the End.Its all WWII theme. My Cosplay of Fi is replicating the Album Cover. The meaning of the Album is covered in By your side song, where two brothers go to war, and they know its never over, even if they die, because they know they will be in heaven someday. Alot of the album covers alot of christian like them. Number five, in the valley of the dying sun is Jacob and Esau with a WWII twist. Voices of the innocent is judgement day. Of course, some of it is just for fun. Red is a fun song that an American loves a Girl Communist (and really that explores the them of prejudice too). Its just an all out fun album!!

Here is the HOH myspace where you can listen to all of them (there are a few extra for the EP version, but you can get the idea):
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And Youtube channel.
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And as for the second part, it was a response. The protesters weren't there, when photographing this pic, but it was right after the protest.
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Surprised I've never heard of them before. I'm a big Casting Crowns, Mercyme, Amy Grant type of girl. But anyway, now I see the connection. Thanks for the links, I will check them out.
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Student General Artist
Haha, yea, they are really alternative stuff.

Ive also got, Sufjan stevens, Tempest september as nice bands. THose are more indie like just a fair warining.
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
No need to warn me- I listen to quite a good deal of "alternative" music, Sufjan Stevens is among them. I was just listing my favorite Christian music. ;)
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student General Artist
Haha ok.

Well you know Owl city is christian right?
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emilysodders Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Never even heard of them either. lol
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