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What do you do about people that are anti photoshop?

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:iconsarahashleyphotos:
Ya know the people that say they are doing things old school by not photoshoping their photos. I always try to use the people edit the same way in the darkroom as they do in photoshop. A photo is never perfect straight out of the camera. And even by setting exposure and stuff you are manipulating how you want the photo to look. If you use filters in front of the camera thats the same thing. Also there are saturation and other setting in the camera that you can change. idk I just dont get those people and I hate arguing with them because they are so ignorant.

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:iconmoroseinsomniac:
....ignore them? Life is too short to try to convince people of anything. Do your own thing.
:iconsarahashleyphotos:
& I mean really... Digital photography is digital therefore you need a computer to process it. Film photography is chemical therefore you need chemicals to process it. There is no such thing as "Not editing my photos is sooo old school" because people usually do and always have done minor edits to their photos. If a film photographer never edited their photos then the film roll would be sitting there all rolled up never to be seen or even still in the camera not developed.
:iconpetebarker:
I don't have a problem with PS anymore.

You effectively edit a photo when you chose what lens your going to use to shoot it.

Accepting that and then not accepting the use of photo chop seems a bit of a double standard to me.

However - i do have a problem with people who adopt the manta of shoot and then fix in PS - that really gets on my tits - almost as much as film purists (oh the irony)
:iconviewtiful0:
I think you've pretty much summed it up. What is the virtue in picking one particular way in which the image can be manipulated and avoiding it?

Moreover, with digital, if anything post production is more important. I say this because with film, you of course have the choice of film, you can pick a film to give something like the result you want. Where as with digital you are stuck with one sensor which will consistently take 'flat' imagines. A small boost in contrast, saturation and some sharpening is just about mandatory.
:iconkissmyhuman:
I laugh at them because their photos usually suck balls.

In all seriousness, digital has some problems as far as being aesthetically pleasing because it's captured in a linear manner. Post processing needs to be applied, and to limit yourself to the few creative settings on your camera because it's "purist" and you're avoiding photoshop is just pure ignorance.

Photography has been an artform that is technically driven, moreso than other forms like painting, drawing, etc. It's in our heritage to evolve and adopt new, more powerful, and more flexible tools.

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Killer Attack! - My blog on photography and film making [link]
:iconsarahashleyphotos:
Exactly and it bugs me when people dont understand that.
:iconfallisphoto:
1. Tell them if they are using a digital camera, they ain't at ALL old school.
2. Tell them that digital cameras -- every single one of them -- are deliberately designed to take horribly flat photos with very little contrast or saturation. The manufacturers make them this way on purpose so they will capture the maximum amount of detail possible in the shadows and highlights. It is taken for granted that you will adjust this to something more like the real world -- in photoshop (or other editing programs).
3. If they still argue, ignore them. Willful ignorance is incurable.

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:iconviewtiful0:
Yep, but what about the people who process all of their pictures in exactly the same way?

I won't pretend that I don't have a standard process for portraiture which I deviate from as I see appropriate. But at least I don't render all of my photos off colour and square crop them :lol:.
:iconsarahashleyphotos:
Ya that is annoying to. You just have to know when to give a photo a vintage look or when to crop to a square or when to make a photo b&w, ect. I haven't really come across anyone that does anything like that though.

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