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I need your opinion

:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
As a classic musician, I find difficulties entering to work somewhere, having gigs (that actually pay) and usually I can't connect with the audience easily (particularly because I like a lot music that is not 'conventional' even for classical standards). However, I want to know the opinion of everyone interested in any kind of music:

1. What is the meaning for you when you hear classical/academic music?

2. Do you like it? Why?

3. Would you be willing to experiment and hear from composers you have never heard before?

4. Simple v. Complex music? (take this question any way you want)

I'd be most grateful with all feedback you can give me :)
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FaceRabies Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
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:iconbotskiz:
Botskiz Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
- 1. What is the meaning for you when you hear classical/academic music?
I don't consider classical/academic music to be different from any other kind of music. I could probably find pieces/songs in any genre that I like, just like I could find some that I don't like.

- 2. Do you like it? Why?
This depends quite a lot on the piece or song. For example, I love "Moonlight Sonata" and "In the Hall of the Mountain King", but I have a hard time listening to "Ave Maria" and "Flight of the Bumblebee."

- 3. Would you be willing to experiment and hear from composers you have never heard before?
Sure, why not?

- 4. Simple v. Complex music? (take this question any way you want)
It always depends on which mood the piece is trying to convey. I can hardly imagine "Moonlight Sonata" to be filled with fast arpeggios, and "Flight of the Bumblebee" wouldn't work if you took the arpeggios out of it.

- 5. Would you change anything in the format of the classical concert?
I think this is a tough question, especially with artists/composers blurring the line between classical and modern music. In a faithful representation of Beethoven's 5th, it would be awkward to see people going crazy, but people wanted to headbang when Metallica played with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra, which is absolutely fine by me. I guess being a little bit less formal might not be the worst idea for traditional orchestras playing rearranged versions of modern songs or film and videogame soundtracks, either.
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Professional General Artist
First thanks a lot for the input. It's very helpful.

However, I have a doubt on your opinion. Just to be clear, would it be wrong if musicians were a little less formal when they play Beethoven's 5th Symphony? Not just modern music (like film or videogame), but all music?
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:iconbotskiz:
Botskiz Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
You're welcome. As I said before, I think this question is hard to answer.

I guess what I meant is that the formality of the orchestra might aswell reflect the event, instead of being all formal all the time.
For example, wearing fracs is completely fine for gala banquets and such, but I wouldn't mind if the orchestra's dress code were less formal if they played for a younger audience that is not typically involved in classical music, even if they played Beethoven's 5th in both cases. Similarly, if you're playing with Metallica, you should expect the audience to be metal fans in jeans and t-shirts, so why not add some heavy metal to the orchestra's dresses?
That said, I'd always expect some uniformity in the orchestra's dress code, tough.
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional General Artist
I've been thinking about this for the last 2 days. It makes a lot of sense. I shall look deeper into it. Again, thanks a lot.
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cecaria Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
1. What is the meaning for you when you hear classical/academic music?
Meaning? I really don't know. But to make me feel something-happyness/sadness/confused...etc

2. Do you like it? Why?
I enjoy classical music because it helps me focus when I do work that requires a lot of though (like science hw). It's also a good tool for escapism. And it's enjoyable to listen to

3. Would you be willing to experiment and hear from composers you have never heard before?
Yes. All composers were at some time new.

4. Simple v. Complex music? (take this question any way you want)
Both. There are times when one is better then the other and vice versa.
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Professional General Artist
Awesome, thanks a lot.

A last question I forgot to add:

Would you change anything in the format of a classical concert?
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:iconcecaria:
cecaria Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I haven't been to many concerts so I can't really say
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Professional General Artist
OK ^^ Fair enough.
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TristanCody Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Student Writer
As a listener of all music, let me say this to you, make me feel and I will freakin' be your blood relative. In other words, make me feel the music and I will be connected.
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Fortunately or unfortunately, you are one of the very few people who think that way.
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TristanCody Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Student Writer
One of few :3
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:iconvrcooke:
VRCooke Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
1. For me, all music gives life to a story. Sometimes, it's not even a full story. It might just be a scene.

2. Whether or not I like it will likely depend on my overall mood. Usually, I'm up for something energetic in progressive.

3. I'm always willing to experience a new sound.

4. I often enjoy music that starts off simple and crescendos into something complex.

Hope this answered your questions fully. If not, feel free to ask more [=
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
It helps a lot, really :D So, thank you.

And yes, there is another question I forgot to add:
Would you change anything to the format of a classic concert?
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:iconvrcooke:
VRCooke Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
What do you mean by format (just to be clear)?
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
The dressing code, the space where the recital is given, the expected behavior of the audience, the way music is presented ... all those things that are not music but they play a roll at the moment of playing music.

For example, the fact that musicians are most likely to play with frac or in black colors and there is a very definite line between the interpreters and the public. Just to name one.
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:iconvrcooke:
VRCooke Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
I would definitely leave the space unchanged b/c of the acoustics (assuming the designated place already has the necessary acoustics for the performance).

I would leave the expected behavior of the audience as is b/c I like to get lost in the performance and forget that the audience is there.

As far as dress code and music presentation is concerned, I'm always up for something unexpected. I've been to great recitals before and enjoyed them quite a bit, but I would like to go and see something unexpected but brilliant more often.
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
Interesting!! You mean, for example, someone dressed with a militaire uniform (old fashioned) who plays war and military pieces ?

or how unexpected?
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VRCooke Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
Oh one other thing I forgot to mention: If you find a way to strongly associate classical music with modern pop culture, I think that might definitely open up its appeal.
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VRCooke Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
Hm, that still sounds expected to me (military dress with military/war pieces). I guess I'm talking about something really out there. Something abstract. Something open-ended. Kind of like how some writers leave certain questions unanswered or certain things undefined so that it can be left up to the interpretation of the reader.

I think it'd be great to open up the atmosphere to the audience a bit more so that they have more room to let their imagination create the scene that the music sets. Your attire could even give them something to contemplate while they listen. "What is the message here, and what is the music saying about it?
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
I ... have taken almost 12 hours, since I read the post, thinking about it. I think it's a great idea. But I don't know how to do it ... at all >.<

However, I do get what you mean. I have to work on that idea.

Thanks a lot ^^ This was very helpful.
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OmicronWanderer Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
1. brings to mind "the four seasons" and number of different works by Bach and such.

2. depends on what emotions are behind the music. I don't like pieces that feel like they are dragging on and on and on or ones that feel static, that lack life or ones that just seem overplayed.

3. very much so I like finding new musicians/composers/bands

4. I like both for different reasons. if a piece is simple yet has a nice beat or has a neat feal to it sure. If the piece is complex yet unleases powerful emotions than I will enjoy it as well. Its more of a manner of 'do I like the song' than other factors.
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Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
I see I see :D Thanks

One question I forgot to add:

Would you change anything in the format of the classical concert?
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OmicronWanderer Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
other than having it to be a bit less formal and exploring on fringes of the range of what is considered classical.

it might help the gap between classical and the term known as 'epic' for emotional music used primarily in the film and gaming industry
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
Well, sure. 'classical music' per se is a wrong term. I think Bernstein did a superior job when he adopted the word 'exact'. Since, the real difference is that that kind of music is written on a paper and it should be played as exactly as possible as the composer intended, whereas rock, pop, R&B or any other genre not [link] . However, I do agree it is a bit too formal. It gives me a lot to think of. So thanks a lot for it :D

It brings a very interesting point I would like to go further in it. As a rethorical matter, would the audience would be really fond of hearing film and gaming music in a 'classical concert'? I will try that once.

Again, thanks a lot for your time.
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OmicronWanderer Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
thanks for the link it is an interesting read.

Unfortunately the majority thinks of classical music as rather sterile tune. I know its not just from my experience with the violin but before that I thought the same as well.

but when the majority think of music played by orchestras(that are not trans-siberian orchestra) they think of music from this time period and equate this with a dislike and boredom with the past.

attempting to change this impression would be for the better.

I personally would like to hear film and gaming music in a concert much as I would like to experience live performances of some bands.

and no problem on giving you a bit of time this has been interesting.
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:iconpianocanival:
Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yes, I do get what you say. I have felt that sometimes.

This has given me a lot to think of. And makes me realize there is a lot of work to do. So thanks a lot for that :D It has been very helplful.
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mightybearrr Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional Filmographer
1) Classical music, for me, tends to be the most "narrative" music in that I get the sense there's a story to be told when I listen to it. Due to the obvious lack of (discernible) vocals, I'm able to project my thoughts onto the songs and imagine the stories being told. Of course if it's music actually written with a story in mind, then I can just imagine my own take on said story.

2) I love classical music because of the narrative qualities I mentioned before. The possibilities of classical music in film, theater, and animation amaze me (I grew up with the classic Carl Stalling scored Looney Tunes so I learned to appreciate the power of musical timing).

3) Sure.

4) Both simple and complex music have their functions and I can certainly say I like both.
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Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
Awesome ! Thank you.

I forgot to add on more question:
Would you change something in the format of a classical concert?
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:iconmightybearrr:
mightybearrr Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I've never been to a classical concert to be honest so I wouldn't be the best person to ask. Sorry :[
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Pianocanival Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
Actually it's all the way around. But it would be nagging and absurd from me if I insist in asking you why is that. Let me explain. Because, even me as a classical musician have trouble sometimes going to classical concerts. I don't know why exactly, and that's paradoxical from me. However, I would like to know what can I give to anyone so that they would enjoy, as much as I do playing as possible, a classical concert.

That's the whole point is: (and take this just as a rethorical question) How can I get you to go to a classical concert? You know? (again, rethorical)
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