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What's the deal with popular music?

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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
What are your theories on why most of the stuff you hear on the air just seems to be so bland, tacky, and grating? And conversely, which songs (in general) are flavorful, stylish, and good, in your opinion?
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I don't think there's been too much of a slump recently; the majority of popular music of the past 60 years has been of generally poor quality, but as time goes on people look back with rose-tinted spectacles. 
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MarkIvan Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I think another aspect of it is, that a lot of the pop acts of today are created by record exec's and/or producers. There for they lack that real artistry of a lot of pop musicians from the past. There's nothing wrong with POPULAR music, its just that today we have an unprecidented level of mediocre and superficial music acts making generic music. The music business isnt so much about talent anymore but rather marketing and branding. This is actually an indictment against the system and the masses who support it rather than those music acts.
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aspacecowboy Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013
Same thing that's up with the cuisine at McDonald's. Be bland and inoffensive, and groups will pick you as a compromise.

Record music that makes you think? Who wants to think?

Record something that you have to pay attention to? Nah, music is background noise.

Build a career on live performance? You'll never move a million units that way.

Big fat lead singer? Where do we start with this one?
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Student General Artist
It's actually getting better from the slump that was 2009-2011. Look at all the good songs that came out recently. Anything by Adele, We are Young by fun. Everybody talks by Neon Trees, Somebody that I used to know by Gotye...

As for the shitty music in the world of pop, you have to realise, the main consumers of singles are kids that listen to whatever is cute or hot with their peers. People with good taste are too smart to waste money on singles and buy albums.
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CaptainPikaSpok Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
becos people are sheep who like unorginal stuff. No popular music is good.
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Black-Allison Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
I just want to say I find there is nothing wrong with listening to Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Katy Perry and Kanye West. Like who can say they don't like at least one song that has ever been in the top 10? I hate people who hate stuff because it's popular. But whenever someone use mainstream like it's an adjective that matters automatically what they are about to say will sound stupid.

That being said I want to say something else about entertainers. Beyonce may not be the greatest singer in the world but she does a good show, same with Lady Gaga, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, none of them were the best singer on Earth but they put on a good show and influenced fashion. I remember listening to an alternative rock radio station, last station in the city to play hip hop, and the host said he, unashamed, went to a Jay-Z concert and had fun, and he thought people are something too caught up in trying to be 'indie,' 'intelligent,' 'smart' or 'underground' that they can't have fun. Call Me Maybe is a pretty dumb song, but if it plays in a stadium during a football game everyone is gonna sing along. I don't think things need to be complicated, serious, smart, or indie to be good, I think people should just like what they like.
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
Aight, there is something I obviously didn't mention.
It's not that I despise EVERYTHING on the radio. I do like Little Talks, along with anything by MJ and (as of recently) pink floyd.

It's not that Lady Gaga is terrible. She can sing. It's that her music and singing is boring, unengaging, and very artificial. Well, Well, her singing isn't literally artificial, but you get the idea.

Ditto for the rest that you mentioned. Though, Pink is pretty decent for today's scene.

It's not only that, it's that the only genres of music I hear on the radio today are pop, rap, and occasionally rock. And don't say RnB is it's own genre.

But back to the topic at hand- the reason I like MJ, Floyd, and the occasional classic like Welcome to the Jungle, is because they don't sound like they were composed by some dude in a turtleneck in some fancy new york building in ten seconds flat. :iconrainbowdashplz:
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Black-Allison Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
I agree about the Lady Gaga thing, her songs are pretty shallow, but she puts on a good show, some people criticize her for being too into fashion but honestly I think that's part of her charm that her shows and videos are always over the top. Her acoustic versions of songs are pretty strong sounding.

Yeah I know what you mean. But I feel like because there's a few horrible pop songs everyone has to be like everything on MTV is crap...well what little music they play on it these days.
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snowchime Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student Writer
I think because record companies pay stations to play songs that have just come out by artists. Like Katy Perry released an album, yet not all of the songs become popular right away, although they WILL be popular a year later. I've noticed that when she makes a music video, that song is the one that's instantly popular. So maybe that's how record companies choose the songs they want to promote.
Plus, popular songs are really EASY to make. I'm in a music tech class, and it's really easy to make beats similar to the ones on the radio. It can take five minutes just to get something up, let alone finished.
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
Hmm... Interesting.
First off, I am jealous that you learned something in music class. Whenever I tried taking it, all we seemed to do is watch horrible musicals. We never even talked about them! It's just "watch mama mia!".

Secondly, I like your point about popular songs being easy to make. They always did sound horrible and quickly made. Then again, they had to be. More time spending writing songs, means an extra minute goes by and they aren't making enough money. Well, "enough money" in their terms.

Music has always fascinated me. Though, when I was a kid, I was horrified by the crap on the radio. It wasn't until I found some underrated J-pop songs on the internet. You gotta wonder, if it weren't for the internet, it would be almost impossible for the average person to find some decent music. Then again, I did find a Diablo Swing Orchestra album while christmas shopping. Though paying around 20 euros for a CD still makes it difficult.
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snowchime Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student Writer
Euros? So Katy Perry reaches Europe... ("Duh!" says Logical Part of Self)

Thanks for the compliments! Almost no-one says I'm right. Yay internet!
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
No problem.

Also, what do you think of controversy in music?
I facepalmed when I read about If You Seek Amy.

And parents go up in arms about it. "Oh! That's immoral! Call the police!" Or some stupid variation.

Whereas the teens are like "It's only mentioning of sex. Get over yourself!"

I like the sense of irony in situations like that.
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snowchime Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Student Writer
Yeah! Grown-ups produce that music, and it gets shoved in our faces, and adults yell that kids are so corrupt. Same with video games.
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
Not really, actually.

It's the fundamentalists and the busybodies that get in the way.
It's the geniuses that make the music.
I unfortunately know a few people who would be kicked outta the house for listening to Marilyn Manson, or Mike Patton.
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ZeFlyingMuppet Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
How I sum it up: People like shit because it's popular.
idk xD
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RatPackSwaggaH Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
Because people like it, even though you don't? :shrug:
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Tidal-Wave-Art Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think it's just the new genres and trends that come about as time moves forward. Years from now something new will come in and people will still complain about how it's bad and how it's not like the "good ol' days". From my experience it's always been like this. As for me I really couldn't care less of a song's popular or not, if it sounds good to me I'm fine.
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Student General Artist
The last new genre was Grunge. After that, things went stale.. I guess Dubstep can count too, but that sold out quickly...
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
It's not that I hate it because it's popular. I hate it because it's bad and popular.
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Tidal-Wave-Art Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's a matter of taste. Well as long as people like it, it'll sill be made. :shrug:
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Student General Artist
Yeaa taste schmaste. You could love a Big Mac, still doesn't make it better or healthier than a lobster.
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Tidal-Wave-Art Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You can like a Big Mac, but that doesn't mean that's gonna be the only thing you eat nor will that'll be the only thing you'll like. Who's to say that if you only eat lobster or a Big Mac with no variety you'll never get sick of it?
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Student General Artist
Big Macs have poor nutritional value :B
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Tidal-Wave-Art Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Never said it didn't. :shrug:
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Student General Artist
Just like Bieber's music :la:
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Laika-chan Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Because crap sells.
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macker33 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
It all sounds the same and its all crap.
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Mintaka-TK Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
This TV Tropes page might explain some things: [link]
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
That actually makes sense.
I guess hipsters have a point after all.
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ThISoMessedUp Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
It's all to do with trends. New genres. New sounds.

To rake in all that money they must be doing something right.
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
I'd beg to differ.
Listen to that.
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ThISoMessedUp Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes, some things in the charts are just pure crap, but some things aren't actually that bad. Take Jake Bugg for example. [link] It got into the charts because it was different.

While I was doing my music diploma at college, one of the units was music industry and what sells. Companies won't take on what doesn't sell. Like trends in fashion, trends in music change every few years. Like early 00's, it was that happy hardcore club stuff that sold. 90's, boy bands and girls bands. etc etc. It just so happens that the trends this decade seems to be dub step and dance.
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Student General Artist
I was in Tennessee and noticed how much BETTER the pop stations are than the ones in Miami. In Miami it's repetitive club dance after another. In Tennessee, yeah the played crap, but they also played good stuff. They played "Call me maybe," a shitty song, but they recovered, because the next song was "Bring me to life,"
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gvcspecks Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
i love jake buggs music.
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
Though that dude isn't bad.
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ThISoMessedUp Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm going to see him live in February! Excited!
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
Nice to hear. ^^

In simillar news, I will be getting my first Pin-up went down album soon.
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ThISoMessedUp Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Never heard of them. Haha.
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
Google them.
They are brilliant, IMO.
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
The gods of fashion and music must be angry to give us such a plague. -__-
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WolfySpice Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
:iconseinfeldplz: "What's the deal with airline peanuts?"
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Rabbit-EYE Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
At least they don't taste like our cafeteria food.
That is to say- like dirt.
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WolfySpice Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Speaking as someone who used to consume dirt as a toddler, I can assure you that dirt is not 'just dirt'. I am sure some dirt would beat your cafeteria's food in both texture and flavour.
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Fzang Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist
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Bamboo-Warrior Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think to get into the popular music industry, it's now more focused on looks. As mentioned here, the labels just want money. They will look for artists with the looks or appeal that is marketable to the public, then shove their music out there for people to listen. It may not apply to all, just a majority of the songs that are on the air.
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nero231 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012   Digital Artist
i took a rock n roll history class in college and asked the same question about how an artist music becomes popular. and that is just about the correct answere, its tough to put one on that question but that a good answere to it.
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Fzang Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist
A rock n' roll.... class...? In college...? What kind of education is that O_o
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nero231 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012   Digital Artist
it was considered a music class and being a art major i had to take atleast one music class. and it was the history starting from about the 20's till present.
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opiumrooster Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
because money.
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popstck Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
my theory is that something that covers wide appeal has to be stretched thin.
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