Bands like the Beatles and the Ramones are not overated. Of course they are not virtuose, most of their songs are simple melodies. However thair impact on music is huge. The lyrics of the Ramones look stupid but that's exactly what they were looking for. Most of the blues and old rock songs got stupid lyrics from Chuck Berry to The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and AC/DC...but thy success to make awesome music with simple things and that's not easy !!!!
Mumford and Sons are the first (recent) band that comes to my mind when I think of "overrated", and these past couple of months I've just been hoping and praying that they don't headline Coachella 2013. Others I don't understand the hype for: The Killers, Muse, The Strokes, Vampire Weekend, Skrillex. Also: Pearl Jam, but that's probably just me.
Depeche Mode are pretty sweet, I almost saw them in concert but it got cancelled THAT day.
Personally I always found the bands that peopled praise so much to be a bit overrated such as Black Sabbath, Metallica, Beatles, Nirvana, etc. Though i can still appreciate their impact in some ways, because had it not been for them some of my other more obscure taste in music might of not existed.
I still think that many influential bands never really got the recognition I believe they deserve such as Swans, Skinny Puppy, Throbbing Gristle, Godflesh.
those bands weren't average, like deviant-garde pointed out, but they are overrated. none of those bands you listed aren't great, perhaps with the exception of the Ramones but that just might be a bias on my part, but are pretty good (besides Green Day, fuck them.)
The complexity and intelligence of the Ramones lyrics aren't exactly why they were influential. They were one of the first punk rock bands from the original New York scene to go to the UK and they influenced a lot of motherfuckers to form their own. The UK is where punk first got genuinely popular. That's significant.
Nirvana I could give a shit about. The Beatles were really just famous as fuck but they did write a lot of good pop songs. Take it for what it is.
Greenday is shit. Even the "early" years I see people refer to talking about when they were "really" punk are boring as shit. In my opinion they were never that good no matter what point in their career you refer to.
When I think of punk, Sex Pistols and The Clash cross my mind. The Ramones don't. Even The Cure seem more 'punk' to me...
Nirvana were good, they are just over hyped. I am also fed up of Smells like teen spirt. It is the only Nirvana ever played. The Beatles, I can respect them. I understand why they got famous, they put time into their music. I just don't like it, the songs sound the same and the lyrics aren't geat.
I sort of like old Greenday, the songs were okay. Just never go see them live. Someone brought me tickets once... Great concert! ... until green day took the stage. ...They had Joan Jett and Frank Turner opening for them... Greenday shouldn't even be in the same place as Joan Jett!
Tbf, even Kurt didn't want Nirvana to become as big as it did. And they have much better songs than SLTS, such as HSB, Lithium, and that untitled secret track from SLTS I think? (It may even have a name, but I think it's their best song instrumentally).
I would've liked if groups like Rancid, Black Flag etc. got more exposure than they did.
I agree. Nirvana had so much better music then Smells Like Teen Spirit. That's not why I liked them, I love Nirvana for their entire musical selection. They have near pop songs to close to screemo. They hit a very wide range, and Kurt Cobain was a genius. True, they are over hyped, and it's sad that a lot of people have only heard Smells Like Teen Spirit.
I always thought that Sex Pistols were shit musically, despite the merit of their influence on the UK Punk scene. I think John Lydon's second band was a million times better (Public Image Ltd.) but if you ever bother looking into music history you've got to understand why Ramones were important especially considering when they formed.
I must say I was NEVER fond of The Ramones, but I think what helped make a lot of these bands popular is they helped set the trends for their time, not because the songs were particularly clever or they were oozing talent. And yes, Ludo definitely needs more love.
No one cares about Lady Gaga, anymore... Bieber, on the other hand is stupidly popular! Even if his fad dies, he will live on the internet. A sort of Rick Astley sort of thing. After all he has the most watch, most liked and most hated video of all time.