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Can people accept a serious story, if it's a cartoon?

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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student General Artist
Would audiences be able to accept or even laud, say an animated movie, with a serious or semi-serious story, if it was in a cartoony style?
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bohobella Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I guess it depends how "cartoony" you mean. Does King of the Hill fall into that realm? Because I'd find it hard to watch a drama where the characters looked like South Park, but the plot was entirely serious. However, King of the Hill does a nice job of having more realistic storylines and characters although it's still certainly a comedy.
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A-CHA4649 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Student General Artist
Of course... TONS.
My personal favorite being Avatar/Legend of Korra.
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Slave2Karma Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
Absolutely. Animation holds a word of opportunity for story telling, and I think a lot of people would be down for a purely grown-up animated film. However, Hollywood has very little faith in animation that's not kid or family friendly and very little know-how on advertising such films, so it hasn't really been explored so much in the USA. There's a hilarious comic called The Goon that is currently looking for funding for a film adaption (and looks AMAZING in the test pieces:[link]) but they can't get anyone to back it because very few people with money think an R rated CGI film would be able to make its money back.
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Caitybee Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, look at most of Disney's older animated movies such as Tarzan, it was a pretty serious movie and they pulled it off with ease.
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hiyoi Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
There's this anime called Madoka or something that has that cutesy moe look but apparently has a serious story, and people seem to love it, so sure?
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Sheridan-J Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I see a lot of people have named some serious cartoons already, like Akira, Grave of the Fireflies, Ghost In The Shell etc. Although they are cartoons, they are done in a realistic style and it works for them.

But by "cartoony" style, do you mean cartoony like Invader Zim, My Little Pony or Adventure Time etc?
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Elexhad Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
My Little Pony has a serious story!
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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Student General Artist
Pretty much like those, yeah.
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Zoltor Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Many a anime says high. Needless to say, yes people do accept serious stories in cartoons.
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DucatRevel Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Student Writer
Spawn's animated movie series.
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Mr-Timeshadow Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
Sure! Humorous shows like The Simpsons and Futurama have made fans laugh and cry, and won awards for it. And movies like Persepolis have taken it much further, as did The Secret of Kells was a very strong entry as well. So if you want to make a serious movie with cartoony animation, go for it! It can be done!
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YTcyberpunk Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Depends on what you mean by "serious," first of all. Many animated family movies or children's movies have fairly serious stories, and are not straight-up comedies.

If you're talking about an animated film or comic for adults, that isn't a comedy or a fairy tale, then yes, I have seen it done. First of all, plenty of graphic novels out there are telling serious animated stories. I've seen animated movies that were aimed at adults and told serious stories. But, one must take advantage of the animation, and give it a style. If you draw your characters like the Looney Tunes, of course it won't be "serious." But if you draw it in the style of a graphic novel, it can be pulled off.
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Tuiteyfruity Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yes of course, I have seen a lot of serious animated stories. or read graphic novels. Maus is a good example. Though people are proportioned pretty well and the settings look realistic. but the characters, depending on race, have animal heads and tails. Its incredibly serious.
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KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It can be. Depends on the style I guess, if it's cartoony to the point of looking silly, it's difficult to make that with a serious story. In general, the more realistic the style, the easier it is to use for more serious plots.
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Cenaris Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ask anyone who watched Grave of the Fireflies.
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DamonWakes Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Writer
Waltz with Bashir is also worth a mention. I don't think either of these films would have worked so well if they hadn't been animated.
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Cenaris Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Waltz wold have been a really boring observational documentary if it didn't have the animated format.
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DamonWakes Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Writer
Definitely. Also, some bits--particularly the really surreal dreams--just wouldn't have worked as live action.
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Cenaris Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's why it worked.
But god-damn that porn scene. Surprised that was in there.
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DamonWakes Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Writer
Haha--yes, that was quite unexpected. :XD:
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Euterpe-The-Egret Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
There are tons of animated and anime films that are made for adults. It really depends on the style.
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Gashu-Monsata Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Well of course! Look at Pixar's Up. I've watched it with people who never watch animation because they consider it primarily for kids and it really moved them. Even Wall.E made them stop and think, because of the underlying messages in that film. I think studios like Pixar do it right, and I believe that animated films can indeed be taken seriously.
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Shinseigo-Takashi Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
Depends highly on the audience you're looking at, but I think most people would be able to accept a serious story so long as it's portrayed well in the animation. It also depends on what you mean by "cartoony", like Snoopy-cartoony or...anime-cartoony?
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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student General Artist
snoopy.
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Shinseigo-Takashi Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
I think it could work, so long as the story is portrayed properly and the characters' facial expressions match the mood the story needs. Of course, it still depends on the audience, but a serious story should work (though it may lack the impact that realistic art can provide)
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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student General Artist
But if it's too realistic, it might as well just be live action. Like the Polar Express, they spent so much time working on that movie and trying to make it perfect and realistic, but in the end it wasn't that well received.
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Shinseigo-Takashi Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Depends who's making it. Some people overshoot it. There's definitely a lot of space to work with between Snoopy-cartoon and so-realistic-it-should-just-be-done-with-live-actors.

I actually didn't watch Polar Express, so I'm unfamiliar with that plot or what that movie was trying to get across, so I can't really comment on that point
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tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist
It depends on the audience. Akira and other anime come to mind that are totally serious. In the western countries most folk associate animated movies with children...even if the audience isn't intended to be children.
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HGWizard Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I think the animation is just for children mentality has been fading out for a while now, and I believe that started with the creation of the Simpsons, which was a cartoon with adult humor.

It's funny back in the 1990s, The Simpsons were considered shocking and they caused a lot of hysteria because of it, South Park came along and caused even more hysteria!

Now I think we can probably start getting more serious plots with animation in future films, but I think in America/Western countries, we're taking the turn towards it!
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Euterpe-The-Egret Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
:nod:
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wwhulk12 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
I think As Told By Ginger is a pretty decent show with serious plots. So yeah, I sure people will accept a serious animated movie. As long as it's done right.
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VelvetFish Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Filmographer
hello. fellow animation student, here.

i personally think we're ready for an animated movie with a serious plot. (No more putting off cartoons as kid's programming or a crude humor medium.)

(besides, half the movies coming out have some form of CGI in it, which is technically animation. we're already heading there.)
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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student General Artist
I just wonder how well any of the films that have come out recently that were aimed at adults would have done if they were animated.
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VelvetFish Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Filmographer
I heard Lord of the Rings did good in the box office, as well as Transformers. (plenty of animation in both)

as far as 2d animation goes, however, i can't think of any.

(luckily, i'm focusing on 2d, and i intend to make serious films.)
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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student General Artist
fully animated.
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VelvetFish Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Filmographer
if CGI counts (which it does), then both of those films are around 70-90% animated.
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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student General Artist
I does, but the fact that it has actual people walking around and doing stuff for a majority of the film still has me reluctant to classify them as animated movies.
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VelvetFish Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Filmographer
would you classify "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" as a life action film?
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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student General Artist
Yes I would, because it used traditional animation in the same way that cgi is used to day.
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