"Most importantly for me, as well as Steven, the changes have to be profound and self-perpetuating. The challenge is to set up new thought patterns that won’t just grind to a halt after the initial adrenaline of being involved in a TV show has worn off. I have maintained a relationship with Steven and continue to ensure that the work was all worth it. "
>>Well, it was a bit more than getting him off the sofa.
It won't even work. Derren has 'dinners' with the guy. Guaranteed to keep the suggestions going that he is motivated. Using ANCHORING techniques. A year on(after Derren has found another idiot) he'll be back as he was, full up on his own bogies. probably with light PTSD.
the mass of suggestion used to MAKE this man ACT cured...Derren's career etc. How DARE he not go along with it.
THE IMMORAL PART IS HIM MAKING HIM THINK HIS FAMILY MIGHT BE DEAD.
If you'd read it all...
For an EXPERIENCE to change us it must HIT US HARD. Brown says he'll suffer no NEGATIVE effects because all that was cushioned. But he needs to be NEGATIVELY affected to be changed. It's the fear of losing his family that forces the change.
It's basically like when you nearly get run over you feel elated to be alive. It's TEMPORARY. and Brown ADMITS that his dinners with Stephen are about CONTINUING the process, which means augmenting the Anchoring that is keeping Stephen happy. Those dinners will end.
Need I even tackle the rest of your response? It doesn't matter about consent. This is an average guy out of his depths manipulated by a clever money maker. If he told Stephen to be happy, he'd be happy. If he told him NOT TO SHOW THE SIGNS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA he wouldn't...until the suggestion wore off.
Need a push? So if you need some drive I should ring you up and pretend your family died?
I did notice that they found the guy through an audition for a fake TV show. It seems possible that to get around the moral/legal issues, they got him to sign something at the audition that said "If I am accepted, I give permission for you to do the following things..." If he was under the impression that he was auditioning for some other Derren Brown stunt, it seems quite likely that he actually gave his consent for that sort of thing (even if he didn't know it would be a zombie apocalypse specifically).
In summary: yeah, it was pretty mean. However, it also seems reasonable to assume that the guy had said it was okay beforehand. I'm just glad he didn't take a chainsaw to any "zombies."
He signed a form saying "I'm ok with you making me think my family might be dead?" No. The forms are general. Did he know what Brown was capable of? he's never done anything this bad before. So no. There's no argument. He's immoral. Gotta go.
Reading the entire thread, I see that you make multiple poorly articulated replies to the same comment, generally peppered with words all in caps.
Again, you said "There's no argument. He's immoral. Gotta go." Since it's clear nothing will make you shift your position on the subject, I'm not sure why you think I'd want to sink time into a response.