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Could a situation like "The Terminator" ever happen?

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:iconadelaidejohn1967:
~Adelaidejohn1967 Jul 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
First off some light reading.

Automated gun kills 9, wounds 14
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Did the software kill soldiers
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South Korea has automated gun turrets for defense
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Well that's pretty terminator like if you want... But if we keep advancing AI's into the future could such a situation actually occur where the robots turn on their own platoons? They would become like the Terminator if they were to do that.

But I'm wondering how long it would take AI to make that kind of leap, and say "I'm not following your orders" or such?
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:iconmister-ace:
~Mister-Ace Jul 11, 2012
No.

Too many safeguards. Too many ways to stop a computer from working. You'd have to go out of your way to make sure they'd be successful.
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:iconmr-timeshadow:
~Mr-Timeshadow Jul 9, 2012
The most important thing to remember is that nearly everything anyone predicts is wrong. How many science fiction writers saw the computer coming? The first I know of was in a story titled A Logic Named Joe, whose author may have gotten the precise mechanism wrong (he envisioned liquid storage technology)but foresaw terminals capable of not only videochatting, but supporting online databases and even internet game playing -- and this was long before the first modern computer was ever devised!
And even though he was close to the mark on the consumer aspect, no one in the business world listened. Even the sci-fi community missed the boat by a mile. Heinlein saw mathematicians as the heroes of the universe because they help fly ships better than anyone, and Hubbard imagined high-tech books...made with really, really light paper.
Some folks, like Doug Hofstadter, have worked on A.I., trying to teach programs to intuit with simulations like "Diner", and had limited success, but while it may be possible for machines to become so fast that they simulate humanity's worst emotions, that's currently a long way off. We have ample time to think this through and simply not hook up things we might fear...or give them kill switches.
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:icontojix:
~TojiX Jul 8, 2012
yeah I saw a hundred asimo carrying china made pistols ahahahaha no problem...
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:icondj0hybrid:
~DJ0Hybrid Jul 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Except AI technology has three problems:
-Current research is for looking into patterns in bits and not being aware of everything around them. So modern and coneptual AIs have only one purpose and only now how to do that one purpose. They are not capable of doing anything philosopical (or else you probably shouldn't bother listening to them outside of maybe any utilitarium theories.)
-"Skynet" is a common name for those around technology and there is a general rule of thumb running around that you should never called something "Skynet" or else it will somehow become aware and be rather aggressive despite that it is just a vacuum or something. The dangers of computers becoming self aware has only started to sink in from Hollywood.
-What exactly are we going to use a single computer that is capable of learning about everything for? It raises a lot of moral questions that is a bit of a iffy discusions for technology (something that is rather rare.)
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:iconadelaidejohn1967:
~Adelaidejohn1967 Jul 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
A self learning computer would be like a brain that knows it's in a box and cant' see, think, or move and would scream. In fact there's a short story just like that somewhere that one of the great SF writers did.
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:icondj0hybrid:
~DJ0Hybrid Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
A self learning computer that can learn anything is a brain, not a computer. Currently, the technology isn't even close due because it requires the computer to update its hardware (meaning it has to shut down or else have a biological hardware) or else it has to expand its software (which is still limiting and considered impossible as programs can't be infinitely long.) And when it comes to sci-fi writers, I wouldn't take their view of the future unless they have a lot of background in said technology they are describing.
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~Adelaidejohn1967 Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Well what about this?

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This computer taught itself to recognise cats, it was not programme to recognise cats, it learnt on it own to recognise cats. It also learnt to recognise human limbs, faces. It only around 15% accurate at the moment but then it only a fraction of the size of a true human vision cortex.
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~DJ0Hybrid Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
This isn't a big leap. Well, it is but not in the manner of a computer being a human. Instead, we have a computer that was given a lot of stuff and recognized a pattern, which is where current AI research is looking at. Google's network is capable of recognizing cats, but it doesn't show any preference to seeing cats over something else.
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:iconpakaku:
`Pakaku Jul 8, 2012
If I could have a computer predict my workflow and offer to streamline it somehow, then why wouldn't I want a self-learning computer? It doesn't need to learn everything in the world, just utilitarian things that suit me.
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~Adelaidejohn1967 Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Yep and barriers to stop it learning beyond its parameters.
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