If there are bold ideas, it seems more profitable to put it in the real world with computer graphics where they can attach an actor's name.

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Hollywood seems like it's dried up of creativity. Each time I turn around, hoping to get a good CG animated spectacle, I get another CG "animal movie". I'm hoping that movies like Beowulf can pave the way for movie producers to use their imagination.

Though not fully animated, the art direction behind Speed Racer looks nice. Though I haven't seen the movie yet and can't judge the movie overall, i'm glad the wachowskis are thinking outside the box in terms of CGI, and thinking of other ways to use it other than make things look "real". They purposely wanted to make the world of Speed Racer look like an actual anime world.

Did you like the Toy Story movies or Finding Nemo? I mean I love old school Disney movies. I just added The Rescuers Down Under to my Netflix. Oh and All Dogs Go To Heaven that was a great movie. Watched it so much when I was little.

"Enchanted" makes me think this; Disney animation was often great. But with computers to make things easier, this 2-D animation could also be much more detailed than before. They have this great advantage but won't use it!

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I have nothing against the movies you mentioned or the films that fit into their category. I'm just saying I'm tired of animation being used for ONLY "kids movies".

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I think we'll see a change soon as 'cartoon' animations become more realistic and live action movies become more and more interlaced with CG. Don't forget as much as I agree with your point the majority of people still dismiss animation as kids movies as I found out when trying to introduce my friends to Anime. But yeh change is coming give it some time, after all Pixar = Disney and good luck getting Disney to make you the next Beowulf In the next decade I think smaller companies will have the opportunities to make animated feature films and thats when things will get more exciting

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I agree. I can understand why they would want to appeal to the younger crowd, but eventually things have to change. I wish they would do something like that Titanic times 4. That would be amazing and I would forever be their #1 fan.

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Iron Giant was decent, probably the last american animated film which I actually enjoyed.

But otherwise, I tend to only watch European and Japanese animation, since, as you said, they make films in other genres besides 'talking squirrels'.

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There is still a fair amount of animation targeted towards older audiences. A lot of them have their origins in Japan, and even then, if they make it to the states rarely get more than a limited release in theaters. It's sad, but animation above a PG rating tends to be seen as a risk. I'm hoping that people will start to realize it can be every bit as sophisticated as live action, especially with films like Beowolf managing to break that limited release barrier.

If you're up for some renting, and possibly some searching to do so, I can recommend a few:

Voices of a Distant Star
5cm Per Second
Beyond the Clouds(The Place Promised in our Early Days in the states)
Metropolis
Ghost in the Shell
Armitage the Third
Vampire Hunter D(and Bloodlust)
Various Studio Ghibli films, though I doubt that needs to be said
Appleseed
Akira

And plenty more I've yet to see/can't remember off hand. I wish I had some western based films to throw in there, though VHD: Bloodlust does have an English voice cast, which is rather cool, but I haven't really uncovered very many. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm was always a classic for me, and I find it feels more mature than a kiddy cartoon, but whether or not it counts is still pretty opinion oriented as it is done in a manor which can remain family friendly.

I love animation, and also wish to see it given a chance to target a broader audience, but I think there are still some barriers to break before that happens.

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