I think the wii u is fantastic. This debate over wether it is next gen or not is a joke, First off the specs quoted by the hacker dude were false, its actually got 3x3mhz core, its got modern architecture and some experts are saying that the next gen playstations and xbox's wont be that much more powerful. Theres a worldwide recession so they are going to have to try and keep costs down,
The gamepad is pure genius. My only worry would be the support from third party developers.
What the WiiU has and the Wii does not is a more conventional controller set up, with a touch screen and possible motion controls. In one swoop it encompasses three popular modern gaming mediums. For third parties this should be a godsend; they can make any games they want, be it a fairly standard adaptation of Call of Duty or Mass Effect, or they can port old DS titles as downloadable options or even IOS games. How fantastic would downloadable ports of The World Ends With You? Combining these three elements can create truly innovative IPs and Nintendo will make full use of it themselves and studios such as Ubisoft with a innovative attitude can really make some amazing things. It is also fully geared up for the digital market; downloadable titles are becoming more popular year on year with many AAA titles appearing as downloadable on day one. Alot of lessons can be learned from services such as Steam. Nintendo have already demonstrated their competence in this market with the 3DS online store. All the right components are in place. It takes a year for a console to really fly, it will take longer to see what Microsoft and Sony have up their sleeves. But unlike the Gamecube, marketed towards family gaming, or the Wii which targetted casual audience, the WiiU has real potential. Time will tell, but I am optimistic!
As the amazing of it is, I don't think it is as innovative as the Wii was. I mean Wii's potention of actually moving is good, but having two screens has been done before. Its just feel like an improvement on two screens, not a new innovation.
Though there is alot you can do two screens I have to admit, and Zombie U is that. You can now pretend you can have an item or carrying cas in one, and a moving screen and another.
The Wii changed gaming- before it, how many people who weren't 12-24 year-olds or arcade-reminiscent dads played games? Not a lot. With the Wii, everyone was playing, and it had something for pretty much everyone too. The Wii U feels more like an experiment, something Nintendo is trying to see how they handle more hardcore stuff, or because the Wii was such a good idea that you can't really do better, at least no-one has thought of a better idea yet and made it. The games that are made for it will be a deciding factor too, especially how they use the game tablet. Get a game or few that uses it perfectly and there's your diamonds
Oh good, some objective stuff. But let's look at sales figures, alright?
-The most recently announced lifetime sales for the Vita are from August, and placed it at 2.2 million units. For comparison, in a shorter amount of time Nintendo sold 3.6 million 3DS units, and considered the sales a failure. So they dropped the price and raised the sales to 6 million next month.
-Sony refuses to reveal worldwide sales data (I wonder why?), but we did manage to get our hands on Japanese sales data for November. In the handheld-loving country where the PSP outsold the XBox 360, the Vita was outsold by the 3DS by a margin of 47-1. That means that for every 100 units Sony sold, Nintendo sold 4,700. Adding further, the 3DS had 21 games in the top 50 sales charts; the Vita had none. I shudder to imagine how poorly the Vita is selling elsewhere.
Put it this way...the wii U at it's highest gig is 32. The PS3 when it first came out, the crap version had 40GB and it's now considered "last gen". Some people would argue that an xbox slim has next to none at it's worst (which is only because the hardrive doesn't come with it, you can still play it just fine) but at it's lowest the xbox has 60GB. Compare the xbox 360 and Ps3's capabilities to that of the wii-U. They could easily top it as "last gen" instalments. Also consider the 3DS and the DS. The DS had the capability to play 3d polygonal games on it and could opperate at least as well as a Nintendo 64 or pretty close to it. It was supposed to be "a console in the palm of your hands" but that never actually happened. Looking at Super Mario 64 DS potential had be proven and YET Nintendo only made games for it that were half assed and mostly contianed the same graphics as the gameboy advanced. Nintendo is being cheap. I don't think they'll "go away" or anything like that because they have such a fanbase and a reputation especially with yonger gamers turned off by the M-rated content on their systems. But you're out of they are out of thier minds if they think 32GB is "next gen" and they're creating games the Wii would be able to handle if they had actually given it a hardrive....yes that's right, the Wii has no hard drive...it's a flash drive. I feel like they're doing this on purpose. Could the Wii U dispite old tech be a good console and be enjoyable to play? Yes I don't doubt that you need that much to make a good credible game. Will it be revolutionary? No. Will Nintendo actually make quality games on it and actually create new and innovated gaming experiences with new characters and new game series instead of sucking the life out of the few they have left? With my last bunch of disapointments on the Wii and so far 3DS I don't think so. It's not because they couldn't. It would be because they chose not to as they continue to chose not to cater to making quality products anymore on the wii or DS. Personally I'm looking forward to the next big indie game rather than trust nintendo with anything again.
Wow, what a mess. Let's try and make some sense of this...
Your point about the memory is a bit of an irrelevance, the Wii U supports both SD cards and 3rd party external hard drives, it's the cheapest console on the market to buy memory for. I highly doubt you'll see that on the PS4 or Nextbox.
Regarding the DS, it's sales figures speak for themselves, it was a phenomenal success.
The idea that Nintendo of all companies are purposefully choosing to make sub standard games is quite frankly, laughable.
I think if they get all the good rpgs and shooters maybe they'll be relevent and hang around. They need games like tekken street fighter final fantasy and some mmo's. They also need all the best shooters so i think thats why they are going with third party now cause they realise thats survival.
It has plenty of potential if it makes a set of good games & is marketed right. Then again, seeing how many fucktards out there (& here) are so overcritical & take something that is meant to entertain so seriously, it's hard to say. For me, I'm definitely looking forward to mine. I own pretty much every Nintendo system except for the very, very first one, & I will gladly add this baby to my collection.
The system has great potential in terms of the hardware and honestly they have a lot of options of ways to go with the gamepad, but right now, I don't see why anyone would buy it over an Xbox or older Wii. It doesn't have a strong enough selling point to buy it while its new. Maybe in like 6 months when there's a stronger first party library it will pick up more in sales.
Well yeah exactly. The system clearly needs a solid Zelda, Metroid, and then Smash Bros. The Wii had a forseeable date for Smash Bros Brawl, whereas the U has none whatsoever with very little details announced about it, that might be the biggest difference. Mainstream third party games are a great addition, however the Wii did fine without them, they need to get the key first party games out there.
Yeah hopefully, if not I'm sure by q2 because those are always at the earlier end of console releases. In regards to the Wii U succeeding or not though, I don't think Animal Crossing is near enough of a draw for most people, or one of the games that's gonna help sell units.
Yes if it is done right. Innovation doesn't occur with new products, but with the creativity of the programmer. If the programmer cannot find anything worth programming, it will be useless. Or the programmer is just extremely lazy.
In terms of the latter, I think Pokemon is a prime example of lazy programming/design. They could make it into so much more and give us features we wanted like multiple regions and trainer customization, but no. The Pokemon Company seems content on popping out a new batch of the wretched things.
It can, don't get me wrong I love the WiiU but we are going to have an influx of better games next year for the PS4 and XBOX 720. I still love Nintendo and I will use my WiiU depending on what games we get.
You'll just have to look at the PS3 and XBox to see why a big, fat YES is the answer. Nintendo is going somewhere with the WiiU, somewhere where PC-Gaming can't go. The PS and XBox on the other Hand... Hardware-wise they'll be never able to catch up with PC, all this social media faffing about they try to push is 1) aviable on a far more user-friendly plattform (PC) or 2) will be swiftly replaced by the Smart-TV's (honestly, why should I pay for Xbox-Live just for facebook, youtube, netlflix and twitter when my TV can do that by itself for free <.<). Controllers are also not exactly a great deal, yes some games work better with them but as many don't, and still, the simple lack of flexibility and buttons forces the devs to squeeze the games an awfull lot together, to a point where it gets rather uncomfortable on both sides... And consoles don't even have the 'pick up and play' factor on their advantage anymore. PC and Consoles alike: Verification, Installation, Registration, Updates, Patch-Downloads, all the same on both...
combining motion control, touchpad and gamecontroller in one, bringing the game back in your hand rather than just the screen. It's actually trying to be games-console with opportunities for the devs to give the player something they can have only with their WiiU, rather than a shitty pc with bad 3rd-party support and pointless social/web-stuff, like the PS and XBOX
Except Sega Nomad, what are they giving to the player other than slightly better specs than the previous generation and an oversized 3DS snapped in two, and those social features are what helped sell the systems until people moved on from them, just as Nintendo should have.
Yes, I believe so. Even if you give the ability to a game developer to use super advanced hardware, it just becomes more expensive to create games to put on said system.
Sure, there's the amazing expanses of Battlefield on PC, or how Metro 2033 graphics are better on PC, but with a console you are certain that everyone has required specs, and seriously do you need 16 cores for a mario game.
The Wii U's games will most likely be cheap, with the occaisional controller innovation. The wii had a great selection of games, as it is getting now. If we remember with the Wii everyone thought Nintendo would fail. It's the best-selling console of all time.
I have no doubts the Wii U will be amazing, just trust me.
Also, if it interests you, Gabe Newell said he liked the Wii U.
Gabe Newell is also a bit of a fan of non-traditional games and equipment. Heck, Valve released a controller for Steam that is meant to be used with PC gaming (despite that plenty of people use the Xbox 360 controller for Windows and it works with Steam Big Picture.) Though it is a bit surprising since he apparently isn't overly fond of consoles (though he has never worked with Nintendo.)