YTcyberpunkFeatured By OwnerJan 21, 2013Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm no expert on "Batman." But wouldn't a poor Bruce Wayne just be Robin (or one of the Robins)? I know one Robin was orphaned, and he wasn't rich like Bruce. So Bruce took him under his wing (har har) so that Robin could take up vigilantism, like he himself did.
With or with out being rich they could have gotten mugged and killed. Muggers will target anyone who looks like they have even just a few dollars on them. If Bruce Wayne’s parents were average middle class workers, a mugger would still go after them.
True, but that, particular, mugger was after them because his mom was wearing a nice set of pearls, a fur, and his dad wearing a nice watch, and so on. I mean, unless you know some muggers, personally, I'd imagine that they normally don't go after people who don't really look like they wouldn't have anything on them. The purpose of mugging is to get an amount of money/valuables worth the effort and potential risk, which poor/working class people don't generally wear, especially with credit/debit cards, and the selection of costume jewelry.
Ok first of all My step-mother and father are both work class individuals on an average middle class income. One year for Christmas my dad got my step-mom a nice pearl necklace. Being middle class doesn't mean you don't have any money for your occasional luxury. There is plenty of things that a middle class worker can have that will get them mugged.
It also doesn't take money to make yourself look wealthy. Any woman can put on some faux pearls, and a faux fur coat and look like she has money. As far as a mugger is concerned he is not going to go check the labels of what a woman is wearing to see if it's real or not. If someone -looks- like they have money then they cab become a target. Chances are if you are out mugging people you don't even know how to tell the difference between real pearls, and faux ones, and you are defiantly not going notice the difference while you're grabbing it off from someone's neck.
Another thing you have to remember is that not all muggers target rich people. They can target anyone that fancies their pleasing. Someone once jacked my wallet off me in Penn Station. That particular day I was wearing a dirty hoodie, ripped jeans, and a half ass broken pair of shoes. I had no pears, jewlery, or expensive clothing yet I was still targeted. The guy had no idea what in my wallet either. He just grabbed it ran.
Even as a middle class or even as a lower income family they could have gotten mugged.
They were just less likely. Since there was a suggestion of them being "poor" working class, they probably would have lived in the East End. Having lived in questionable areas, you had less likelihood of being "mugged" by people from that area, violence in those areas are usually gang-related, familial vengeance, et cetera. If his parents were still killed, as unlikely as that would have been, it would be more likely that they were casualties of someone else's problems.
Well now you are not making any sense. Ok so Bruce Wayne's family was from the slums of Gotham, that does not mean that they can never leave the area they live in. Being poor doesn't mean you can't be in nice parts of the city where "rich people" are found. There could be a million reason that put his parents in a situation to get them killed in the manor they did. A persons socio-economic class has very little to do with their chances of being mugged regardless of where they are.
"Having lived in questionable areas" That right there is opening up a world of ways that his parents could have gotten killed by a mugger. Living at an area of high crime rate can heavily increase your chances of being mugged and killed. Before moving to NYC I lived in a shit small town with a really high crime rate. Just because I live in that area doesn't exempt me from getting mugged. I am just as likely as someone who has never been there before.
I firmly stand by my belief that Batman would still exist if his parents were poor. Not much you can say will sway my belief.
"Having lived in questionable areas," was a personal reference, not Bruce's would-be experience.
Of course, we are talking comics, which means that we are talking stereotypes. I doubt they'd have a "poor" family not living in a "poor" area, such as the East End, where he would grow up with violence not being such a... shock as it would have been to a coddled, sheltered, well-to-do, little boy, because it is all the better to emphasize their squalor. He also wouldn't have the benefit of Alfred raising him. So, he'd probably go into the system. He'd probably end up like Jason Todd would have, if Bruce hadn't gotten him, first.
Of course, as you've said, I can't sway your belief. That's fine, again.
That is, sadly, how most people know him. I was a Marvel kid growing up, too. They're easier to relate to, generally, for angsty pre-teens and teenagers. The whole, "the world is against me," and relationship drama, I think.
Well, to be fair, if he were from a poor family, he would have likely grown up somewhere like Suicide Slums, where violence was a relatively common occurrence, and his parents probably wouldn't have been mugged/killed for looking rich in a poorer part of town. Thus, he'd have no reason to become Batman, and he likely would have grown up to become a regular schlub like everyone else, or maybe he'd start the company. But, still, no Batman.
Well, Peribyss beat me to it. I'd think he'd end up like Rorschach from Watchmen--a vigilante with great detective skills and the ability to fight, but none of the cool gatchets, extensive training, cars, protection, health care, and Alfred.
After growing up poor, going to an inner city school in Gotham and getting his little butt kicked for talking smack about justice around kids whose family's put food on the table with crime, he eventually learns that the world in not black and white. And that bats are just harmless animals.
I think he'd end up a vigilante either way. He'd probably join the military, end up in Special Forces or similar, then would become a cop after discharge, work his way up to detective, then turn to vigilantism when "the system" doesn't allow him to pursue justice his own way.
i agree batman wouldnt have nothing but idk that s another story in itself i mean look at robin he looked successful in teen titans and night wing but he was orphaned....well unless he was on bruce's will
Without wealth, he wouldn't be able to afford his education, extensive training from teachers all over the world (at least within 20-some years), or the hi-tech gear he relies on so much. You'd probably have yourself a clever street vigilante who'd last for an issue or two before he dies from his wounds because he can't afford a butler with medical knowledge.