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Group Notes on the deviant's note page.

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~icytemporalist Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
G'day all,
I'd like to make the suggestion that notes a deviant sends to any group can be seen together from the notes section of their devwatch, perhaps in their own section, to seperate them from regular notes?

Or can we do this already and I'm just missing something obvious?

Also, perhaps something similar could be done for admins of a group regarding when their group recieves a note. I've had a couple mention in the past they must've 'accidently clicked the red x' and deleted the note, so perhaps that could go as an extra failsafe?


What brings this about is that I've sent a couple of notes to a few different affiliates of one of my groups and I'd like to follow up on the ones that haven't been replied to. This gets a little bit tricky when you lose track of which affiliates you've noted in the first place. ^^;

So, what does the rest of dA think?
-Icy
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`miontre Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Nice suggestion, that'd make more sense. :) Although the problem is; it's users sending the notes not the groups. So you'd actually be receiving notes from other users. And so maybe it isn't technically possible to make this feature. Thinking about it more, maybe the current system makes more sense. :shrug:

Also note that "X"ing a group note does not delete it, you can still access it from the group's notes section. :) groupname.deviantart.com/notes
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Mood: Wow! ~icytemporalist Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"Although the problem is; it's users sending the notes not the groups. So you'd actually be receiving notes from other users. And so maybe it isn't technically possible to make this feature. Thinking about it more, maybe the current system makes more sense."

I'm afraid I don't understand your wording here. My point is for there to be a simple way to find all the notes a deviant has sent to any group in the one central location. Having things haphazardly spread over different groups makes no sence at all to me. :/

Also the point about the 'x' was that the notification was inadvetendly deleted, not the note itself, resulting in the note not being read. That does seem rather obvious to me, so once again I think I've missed the point of your message. ^^;
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`miontre Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Sorry about that. ^^;

I'll write it differently. It is not the actual group which sends replies to the notes, it is an admin which sends it on behalf of the group. So the problem with the group notes going to the Notes page is that they come from other deviants, meaning it probably wouldn't be technically possible to implement your suggestion.

From what I read, it seemed to me you thought the actual notes had been deleted.
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~icytemporalist Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah I think I get what you're saying now and I can properly disagree with you now. ;)

(Now bear in mind I know nothing about the programming behind notes beyond the little quirks one picks up on from time to time. I'm also trying to avoid turning this into another debate about Groups sending notes as a group account. ^^; )

My intial request was for there be a way to view all the messages a deviant has sent to all groups from the one location. From there I also suggested a similar section for Admins with the privledge.

Now in terms of implementation, I'm imaging this new section would have to be seperate from the regular notes section (which I think would be better anyway), so something like a 'Group Outbox'. The interface would be similar to the prexisting notes system, however instead of a list of the selected note and all notes prior in the 'conversation', it would be like when you look at the replies section of a Group note.

An alternate design (and now that I think of it, a better one) would be like how the group notes already work for a given group, except it would contain notes from ALL groups a deviant has been in correspondance with, not just group x.
Again the selected note would only bring up the note itself and any 'comments' it's recieved.

I'm guessing that's where your comment is coming from, that Group Notes reply with typical comments, whereas deviant notes reply with another note?

So with that in mind, I guess the part where an admin with the notes privledge would be also possible, since it would just grab all the notes from the groups they're a part of, rather than the notes they've sent.

Does this address your concern? ^^;

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Really? <Re-reads original post> Ah, that one was my bad. That should read something like "...and deleted the notification for the note without reading it, so...". Uheheh... Thanks for picking up on that! :)
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`miontre Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Ah, sounds like you've really thought this out! ;) Sounds like a wonderful idea to me. :) Hopefully it's possible! :dummy:

Haha, no worries. :D
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~icytemporalist Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope so too. Now the next step is to hope this idea gets enough attention that one of the dA staff take a look at it! :icondragonprayplz:<brik'd>
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I'd like to be able to send notes as the group instead of as an individual. That would solve the problem.
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~icytemporalist Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Perhaps... however there are other senarios where one may wish to note a group as themeselves rather on behalf of a group (eg inquring about membership guidelines) so whilst useful, sending notes as a group still wouldn't solve all of the problem.

Not to mention there'd also need to be an extra sent box for groups and all that other backend added too. I'm hoping that my original suggestion is as simple as it sounds, though knowing what I do about programming that may not be the case...

Heh, come to think of it, if groups started off as regular accounts, then at one stage they already had this ability. Interesting.
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~icytemporalist Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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