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So, its nice to TELL us that you're trying to deal with the spam, but why not SHOW a little?

:iconabstract-mindser:
I can't help but feel unconvinced that anything is being done about the spam and various other issues if there isn't evidence presented directly in favor of there being less spam; merely flimsy anecdotal evidence.

The same could be said for the CEA, and its overly bureaucratic, propitiatory, and practically atomic freeze pace methodology, only moving as slowly as legally allowed. (If even that.)

And considering recent events regarding community volunteers, I think its more than due time to look at how that process works, and consider working it so that we can put it to a vote; hopefully avoiding the issue of having complete fools for community volunteers.

Now I realize there are likely journals and news articles that already exist to explain how this all works, but why not simply add those to the official materials and deviantArt manual?
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:iconzetikla:
~Zetikla Dec 6, 2012  Student Photographer
Fair enough, at least the number of spam posts are a bit less than it used to be duringt the football mach seasons
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:iconabstract-mindser:
And at lease as of late, most of the spam posts don't actually have links.
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:iconzetikla:
~Zetikla Dec 7, 2012  Student Photographer
Yup but a spam is still a spam, I think we agree on that
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:iconparabuteo78:
=Parabuteo78 Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What I don't understand is when a user is banned after spamming the forums, with say those live sports links of the past weekends, their threads stay visible?
Why not remove those threads or at least hide the OP with the links?
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`nokari Dec 4, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
As several staff have already said in several of *Abstract-Mindser's and other topics about this same thing, they keep them for information gathering. They use them to track patterns, such as keywords, usernames, host IPs, etc. It all aids them in putting up measures to stop and prevent spam accounts. Mindser acts like there's nothing being done, yet he has no idea how many spam accounts/topics spammers have actually tried to create, nor does there seem to be any recognition that the number we currently see is still less than before. Even if it were more or the same number, that doesn't mean there aren't 10x more that dA has actually prevented with the measures they've put in place.

I don't know. Tell me how many times dA staff have to repeatedly tell us what they're doing before someone like *Abstract-Mindser will be satisfied? The answer is probably he will never be satisfied with anything they do unless it's perfect to his liking, cause he just can't help be cynical about anything and everything they do here.
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=Parabuteo78 Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ok, that makes sense :)

I was just wondering, not criticizing, why the posts sometimes stay visible but your post explains it.
(I agree it's not as worse as before and spam topics are being closed quickly, even on weekends. I also noticed a lot of the spam posted is usually from the same account.)
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`nokari Dec 5, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
Yeah, not a whole lot can be done about rapid fire posting initially. The best they can do is lock them all, then dig for ways to trace the source, block it, and dial in automated preventative measures for identifying and blocking future spam posts. The problem is that the guy(s) using these accounts are using some very sophisticated stuff and spammers are constantly evolving new ways to get past anti-spam measures. Everywhere, not just dA.
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:iconabstract-mindser:
They do that; but it only seems to really be done if the spam is actually malicious.
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:icon0rg:
All I ask for is (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST).
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:iconabstract-mindser:
And I'll compromise for (REQUEST REDACTED)
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