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January 18, 2013
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So a friend of mine had a brilliant idea...

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BabakoSen Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
...to petition the gov't to keep assault weapons legal for the mentally competent but require owners/buyers to enlist in the army reserve and undergo all associated training. What do you think? I think it's a perfect "Thanatos gambit" (by TVTropes' definition). Think about it: either we discourage people from buying/owning assault weapons, or we ease our troop shortage. And all without any meaningful change to the current interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.

If you wanna sign, here's the link: [link] We only have until Feb. 17 to get the signatures needed for Obama to address it. Do your part!
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3wyl Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Please read the Forum Posting Guidelines before posting as this does not encourage discussion and should be in your journal. :)

FAQ #801: Are there any rules for the Forums?

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BiOzZ Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
but its very unconstitutional to require someone to enlist in a branch of the military OR give up one of there rights without activating a draft ... unfortunitly this would NEVER pass even with an all democratic house and senate
not to mention there is NO database of who owns assault weapons and searching every house or even if we knew who owned assault weapons going in to there house to take it away you might as well throw out the constution
unfortunitly even with a strict ban the weapons out there now will have to stay
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BiOzZ Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
i own assult weapons and im glad i do and i understand why one would but i believe that some things take president over ones fun or paranoid fears
i am not entirely for an all out assault weapons ban because of my own interpretation of the second amendment but something has to be done now and if an assault weapon ban would stop even a single mass shooting than thats enough for me to not buy another assault rifle
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Rayum Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
The brilliantist.
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hopeira9 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
OH! Just fyi, this is the wrong section of the forums for this, [link] is more suited for this thread, but those guys would tear you limb from freakin limb.
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hopeira9 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
I will have to agree with *Civyx on this one. That petition site is a joke, and shall never accomplish anything. You'd have more luck writing your congressman :|
The idea itself seems kinda militaristic, but, :iconapplejackderpplz: bleah, i'm brain dead right now, i just woke up...
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BiOzZ Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
i have to dissagree there ... if you get 100,000 signatures the white house has to respond when most congressman send back a "thank you" letter without even ever opening your letter and most never do
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hopeira9 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
:iconoctaviashrugplz: It was somewhat just sarcasm.
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BiOzZ Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
oh lol X3 ok
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BabakoSen Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This isn't a thread about reality shows, people.
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hopeira9 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
:| welcome to deviantart. You say look left, they look South.
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Cannibal-Cartoonist Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I'd like to watch a reality tv show where people dress up as super villains and do obstacle courses and rob stuff.
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UnknownSingularity Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a better idea for a reality tv show :nod:

You get a group of Americans heavily armed in a desert island without food. Then we watch them kill each other, and feed on each other :evillaugh:

The surviver, can keep all the weapons, and gets an appartment in Washington Dc, close to the white house :aww:
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redmarlin Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
My art class and I got this idea too. They should make a reality show called "Shrinks", where they get a huge mansion and invite a bunch of psychologists to live together in it, and they have to evaluate everyone else living there - but the catch is that every time they all leave, they make everything in the house 5% smaller and see what happens.
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Calvero Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Student
Would they know that the other people living in the house are also psychologists?
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redmarlin Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
I don't know, we didn't go into that much detail. I don't think they would though. It's better entertainment that way.
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Calvero Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Student
I just realized a problem with that. What about doctor-patient confidentiality? Maybe that's why no-one has done a show like that.
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redmarlin Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Yes, but this is television.
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prosaix Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
:lol:
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BabakoSen Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What?
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Civyx Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
The petitions on the whitehouse website dont get taken seriously. I remember the weed one was pretty much scoffed at. The one to label GMOs in food and the one to stop drone strikes were simply "archived" without ever having been answered even though they reached the goal....which they changed from 25k signatures to 100k signatures BTW.

The site exists just to make people THINK they are listening.
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siantjudas Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013   Digital Artist
Nope.
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InkedAliveByColor Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Oh wow your friend has the most original idea ever. Thank god for him. Not signed due to the fact people like you would get a gun.
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BabakoSen Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
As a matter of fact I have no intention of ever owning a gun.
BTW, you notice the scope of this petition is rather narrow, do you not?
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Do we have a shortage in the reserves, in the US? Do we really need more random people applying, and some that are 40, 50, 60 years old, at that?
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DC4894 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So what about people that can't be in the military? What about people too old to join the military? How about you quit focusing on visual features of specific firearms and start doing something useful?

When will people realize that those petitions don't do a damn thing?
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BabakoSen Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Assault rifles have no purpose outside the military. They're designed to kill as many as possible as quickly as possible. There's no sport in hunting with one unless you consider putting the exploded carcass back together like a puzzle a sport. And if you really think you can defend yourself against an army with one, well, there still are plenty of things the military can use that civilians can't. Besides, Europeans and Australians are doing just fine keeping their governments in check without assault weapons. Ask one of them. I know nearly a dozen on one site alone.

I'm not saying this is THE solution, I'm saying it's ONE very good candidate for the gun control part of the equation. Besides, Congress won't ever think of this if nobody even attempts to bring it to their attention. Will it accomplish anything? Probably not, but it definitely won't if we don't try.
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DC4894 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Your idea discriminates against people with disabilities and medical disorders, and the elderly. It's a horrible idea, just in that. There are 25.6 adults in the US with diabetes; nearly all would be denied by the military.

AR's (your so called "assault rifles") are excellent guns for farmers dealing with coyotes. Coyotes travel in groups and hunt in pairs. I wouldn't want to be fumbling with .223, trying to reload in the dark, while a pack of coyotes is about to attack livestock. Australia and Europe don't have the Second Amendment and are very different from the US. Apples to oranges.

You're all over banning "assault rifles" because it doesn't affect you. Open your eyes a bit.
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Part of the problem is how much you guys glorify weapons and violence...
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BiOzZ Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
were a nation of warriors without a war to fight so we find something to hate and we take it so seriously we scare our selves and up arms as thats the only way we know how to solve our problems
and thats why this country is going to hell in a hand basket
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BabakoSen Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
We know. This is forcing the people with the hyper-patriotic revolutionary fantasies to get a reality check.
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gvcspecks Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
yeah, good luck with this...
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