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Origins of words or phrases

:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
Many phrases come from real life. Such be the case with "Piss Poor" At one time in the past they used urine to tan animal skins, so families used to pee in a pot and when it was full they sold it to a tannery. If you had to do this to put food on your table you were "Piss Poor" But it was worse if you couldn't even afford a pot in which case you "Didn't have a pot to piss in"
What is one you know of?
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:iconkimihro:
Kimihro Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I still want to know the origin of "putting on the dog." :I
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:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
You don't want to know unless you are into bestiality.
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:iconkimihro:
Kimihro Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:icongrossplz:
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
90 to 100% of these cute stories are spurious.
As are 75% of internet statistics.
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:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
Makes as much sense as any other explanations. You got any better?
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M-J-Gagne Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The word Saunter, to walk about in an idle manner, comes from the French Sans-Terre (without earth). It was used to describe those who would make pilgrimages to the holy land during the crusades.
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3wyl Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
A dead ringer is because people used to be buried alive. They'd break their graves and would walk around amongst the living, but people thought that that person was dead. Eventually, a system was put in place that those buried would have a ring, hence dead ringer.

Or, at least, that's what my English teacher said once.
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:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
Yes, grave sites were getting hard to find so they dug up the coffins and sent the bones to a bone house and reused the coffins. But they noticed scratch marks inside the lids and thought they were burying people alive so they ran a string up though the ground to a bell. There was a watchman in the cemetary who could hear the ringing and realize they had a "dead ringer" lol
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:icon3wyl:
3wyl Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That sounds about right. :O
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You know... I didn't know that.
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:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
Now you do. do you have a pot?
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I have several pots to piss in. Especially when I'm pissed. Someone once stole one of my pots though, they were taking the piss. I was pretty pissed off about it.
SO MUCH USE FOR PISS IN OUR LANGUAGE.
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:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
When I was little we used a pot to piss in on long car trips. But that was because there were 4 of us kids and would have had to stop every 5 miles for one of us to go.
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Such is like in The Zo- Ireland.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Bluey. An Australian term for a red-haired individual.
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:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
I would think a reddy. Guess I'm a bluey.
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Damn the Australians.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
oi, watch your mouth, mister, I'm an Australian.
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Your country is full of weirdos and I hate you. Forever.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Whatever your country is, it's a shithole.
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
What would you do if I turned out to be Australian? :iconwooooplz:
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'd call you a citizen of the world.
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm actually from the moon.
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:iconoperia:
Operia Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know if this counts, but many of those nursery rhymes are based on tragic historical events :B

Examples :dummy:

"Ring around the rosie" ... The Bubonic Plague
"London Bridge is falling down" ... Should be obvious
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
Buh-uh
[link]
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:iconoperia:
Operia Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh really? That's what I was always told :o
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
I know, it's one of those stories that's so much more interesting than the truth (and a bit subversive to boot) that it gets passed around everywhere. I believed it myself for a while. But I've seen so many stories like this debunked that I basically check EVERYTHING on snopes.com now.
It's almost more fun to just believe it :(
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:iconoperia:
Operia Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, I just found out that London Bridge never actually fell down. So long to childhood memories :grump:
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
Don't give up hope, there's still time!
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:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
But did London Bridge ever fall down? I know they sold it, took it apart, and it now rests as a bridge in Arizona, Calif.USA
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:iconoperia:
Operia Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I might be wrong about it. Try reading this; [link]
It should offer a better explanation than =EmoKels can offer :B
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Student General Artist
Pull my chain comes from gold miner in Colorado's. They had mine carts to take a shit in, if the chain was yanked, they had to get out cuz the cart would start moving.
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Student General Artist
Don't ask why I put an apostrophe s after Colorado :p
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:iconnosugarjustanger:
nosugarjustanger Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
Uhm... how about basic ones like Orang Utan, which means 'people of the forest'? :slow:

It's obvious why, though.
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:iconbadgercheese1994:
Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Student General Artist
Really? I thought it had to do with their orange fur
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:iconnosugarjustanger:
nosugarjustanger Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
Nope, not due to the orange fur at all. :lol:
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:iconoperia:
Operia Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
When I was a kid, my mum told me they were orange because they ate too many mandarins :B
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
That's false.

However, I like the idea of 'What's got your goat'.

Horses, especially race horses, have companion animals. (Dogs, goats, ponies, cats etc. etc.) at one stage, goats were common.
If a companion animal goes missing, it can distress the horse.
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merrak Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist
Snopes disagrees. [link]

As for the second set of specious etymologies put forth by the e-mail about the disposal of urine, we note that while human urine has been used in a number of cultures throughout history to tan animal skins, such tanning was typically done by families or small bands of semi-related people to process the skins of animals they'd hunted or raised themselves. Folks weren't collecting their urine, then selling it to large commercial tanneries (which used other chemical compounds in their processing of animal skins).
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M-J-Gagne Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well I can't speak to the origins of the term "Piss Poor" but I can say that urine was used in the tanning process in large scale manufacturing operations. The following link [link](pg 326) takes you to a book published in 1885 on the leather industry. By the time this book was published alternative chemicals had come onto the market, but this had been a recent development (in the previous 20 years or so).

This link is also interesting and gives some insight into where these manufacturers would have gotten their urine. [link]. The text on pg 132 of this 1868 book states that one company who did not use urine to dye their yarns instead "carted" away the urine of their workers to other woollen mills.
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:iconorangekrissy:
OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
well sure, later on when they developed the chemicals but it was the ammonia in the urine that did it. This was like in the 1500's.
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