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Rule 34

:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist
TAKE CAUTION - If you haven't heard of rule 34, I suggest you turn away before you learn of it. I wish I had the chance to turn away before I learned what it was. Curiosity killed the cat.

Dont say I didn't warn you. You may be entering the scary - rated R for mature - part of the internet.


So - its a weird subject and I am not an expert on it. Urban dictionary's page for 'rule 34' says that rule 34 is the concept of that "If it exists, there is porn of it." You can find the page here - [link].
So, from what Ive learned from that is - there is porn somewhere on the internet of anything from paperclips to ferrari cars. But, people have told me that people make sexual images using characters from children cartoons like Scooby Doo, Spongebob Squarepants, and of course - My Little Pony.

Im really really against this. Im not against porn or anything - porn stars can make money any way they like, I really don't care - but these cartoon characters were not created for this! If I created Spongebob, I would not like any of my creations to be exposed like this. Its not kewl!

Anybody got opinions? Let me know. I'm pretty intrigued.
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:iconpatt-ytto:
Patt-Ytto Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Baby's First Internet Connection. :pat:
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:iconunknownmarksman115:
Unknownmarksman115 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
XD
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:iconhotaru-suzume:
Hotaru-Suzume Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012   General Artist
Haha. I even have my own original characters and I'm not afraid to think of them sexually, nor do I mind if anyone else does. I think that's the probable attitude of most creators.
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:iconbadgercheese1994:
Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student General Artist
I was watching a video of Howard Stern talking of how 'Bronies' jack off to pony porn :X
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist
:iconclevelandplz: Thats just nasty.
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:iconksxzt:
KSXZT Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm sure non-bronies do too.
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:iconnightshade255:
Nightshade255 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Someone called?

... I mean, what? Nooooo
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:iconksxzt:
KSXZT Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:lol:
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:iconbadgercheese1994:
Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student General Artist
Excuse me as I pour hand sanitiser into my BRAIN!
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:iconksxzt:
KSXZT Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconbrainbleachplz:
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:iconcosmic--chaos:
Cosmic--Chaos Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You'll need more than one gallon :stare:
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:iconneiot:
Neiot Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
A Rule 34 of my character(s) would feel flattering.
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist
Maybe. But r34 isnt all about fictional characters is it? Innocent and real people could be edited into porn as well.
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:icondawnsbreak:
DawnsBreak Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Yeah, 't's called RPS(Real person slash.)
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:iconneiot:
Neiot Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
... Mm'hmm. I've seen.
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist
And that shouldn't be allowed.
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:iconslicedguitars:
slicedguitars Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
It's the internet, it makes finding these things easier than it was previously. But it's always existed somewhere in the world. I'm sure during the silent film days there was Rule34 of Charlie Chaplin somewhere.

I do think it's gross having under-age characters depicted in that way though. It exists, but as far as I'm aware it's also very illegal since it's a depiction of a minor whether it's a drawing or a photograph - it's still the same legally.
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist
Well of course its existed before and without the internet. The problem with having such stuff on the web is that anybody can see it unless its on a page that only some people could access - with a password or something. Taking a picture of a random person, editing them into porn, and then uploading it onto the web for everybody to see shouldnt be allowed - but this rule seems to suggest that its an acceptable thing to do.
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slicedguitars Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
The rules of the internet aren't really supposed to be taken seriously - and they certainly aren't there to claim such things are acceptable. I think in the case of Rule34 it's not considered acceptable, but the rule makes the claim that it's inevitable that such things exist.

Inevitability based on the amount of people on the internet - I mean look at fandoms. There are massive groups of people that are obsessive fans, that use the internet as an outlet for their interest. Out of that group and based on human nature it's inevitable that some of them would have fantasies (romantic or otherwise) about those characters, and therefore a subset of those might produce or commission artwork depicting those fantasies.
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist
Well, they seem to be called rules.

Anyway - I understand what you mean by the rules of the internet arent supposed to be taken seriously. But Im not talking about the rules, Im talking about rule34 art. The common definition of 'rule34 art' on the internet is art of porn of any subject. This forum is a good example of how people define r34 art as pornographic images of any subject - [link]
Thats what I'm against.
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:iconkawisaurus:
Kawisaurus Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student General Artist
I dont know about you but id be really annoyed if i drew a really nice peice just to watch it being abused
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:iconnightshade255:
Nightshade255 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
what?! Its other people turning your work into whores and pimping the fuck out of them.



... Nothing wrong with that
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:iconkawisaurus:
Kawisaurus Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Student General Artist
I spend hours on a peice just to watch my work get vandalised? Not fair
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:iconnightshade255:
Nightshade255 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
/sarcasm
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:iconkawisaurus:
Kawisaurus Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student General Artist
I guessed xD
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist
Yeah, and there are worse things that the rule allows also.
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:iconterminallybored:
terminallybored Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Some of it's amusing, some of it is downright disturbing, like loli art. The people who are into that will always say it's harmless because they're "just cartoons", but to me if you're attracted to a semi-realistic cartoon drawing of a child there's no reason why you wouldn't be attracted to real children.
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist
Yeah - I kinda agree with you... that could be very sick.
Rule34 states that "If it exists, there is porn of it". So, as children exist - the rule kinda supports child pornography..? Thats how Ive come to think of it.
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:iconsomnusvorus:
Somnusvorus Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012   Digital Artist
4chan came up with it, yes, it is pretty true. Another one is, there is also a gay porn of it. Welcome to the internet! You just have to ignore the creepy shit if it doesn't do it for you. :dummy:
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist
Please, you guys really have to stop saying "Welcome to the internet!". Ive been here a while now.
Plus, Ive known about this for a while now - but I've only just decided to post a forum of my opinions on it recently.
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:iconsomnusvorus:
Somnusvorus Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012   Digital Artist
So have I, but this is the internet, deal with it. =/
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist
I already have dealt with it. In the forum I never said that not I havent dealt with it - I only made the forum so that I could express my opinion on the matter.
=/
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:iconsomnusvorus:
Somnusvorus Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012   Digital Artist
Then this should really be in the complaints forum then. =S
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist
Maybe, but I put it here.
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:iconasukakissu:
AsukaKissu Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Porn is beautiful.
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist
I didnt say that porn wasnt beautiful. Jus saying that some forms are nasty...
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:iconasukakissu:
AsukaKissu Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not really, everybody has something that turns them on...some just happen to be cartoons.
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:iconmapper3:
mapper3 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
And weird ass fetishes.
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:iconasukakissu:
AsukaKissu Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly.
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:iconnamezmud:
NamezMud Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012   General Artist
To be honest I just think it's funny. I guess I just view it as really warped fan art.
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:iconmkemaster:
Mkemaster Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I never found porn of Pringles so the rule is not universal. Also I don't make cartoons so I won't worry about someone using my characters for porn. Also they are a good invention :iconyoucardplz:
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:icondawnsbreak:
DawnsBreak Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Watch it, someone might get ideas.
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:iconmapper3:
mapper3 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
:iconhurrhurrplz:
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:iconvisaga:
visaga Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yep. It's not kewl but there's nothing you can do about it ;P
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist
Yeah, I kinda know that I cant do anything about it. Im just expressing my opinion, as you are.
Thanks.
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:iconvisaga:
visaga Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
no problem :huggle:
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist
:D
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:iconslippymagnus:
SlippyMagnus Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, Kid, listen.

You didn't need to search for that, and now you're looking to be the Knight in shining armour, but just relax. Everyone that's heard of it already knows about it, and chose whether or not they liked it THEN AND THERE. You don't need to tell anyone about it, and you don't need to lead an enticing little trail for them to follow.

By saying "NO DONT DO THAT, BUT THE LINK IS HERE [link] " is just asking for someone to click on the link.

If you wanted to really stop R34, You'd put "Against R34" in your Signature, and then never mention it.
By putting this up, you're only increasing the fanbase for this sort of thing.

Also, many fans of many things sexualise things as they care for them, and would like to show EXACTLY how far they'd go to show the character they love and care for them. While most is Pr0nz, some of it is actually an expression of caring for the character.

Don't underestimate the span of the internet, and of Humanity. We will prevail, and I can likely explain it further should you need it, but you've gotta ask me first.
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:iconwilltommo:
willtommo Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist
Why do so many people think that Im gonna put a stop to it? Obviously, Im not powerful enough to stop anything on the internet. Im no 'knight in shining armour', Im just expressing my opinion and saying that I think it is bad. Im not increasing its fanbase either, people can join it if they please - but I personally don't like it.

And... yeah. I really am against the concept of "If it exists, there is porn of it". Because this clearly means that innocent people can be simply photoshopped into porn, and then this porn can be shared all over the world wide web. How is this fair?

"If you wanted to really stop R34, You'd put..." I never said that I did want to stop it, did I? Because, I know that I couldn't. On the internet, I am too weak to stop a fanbase - much like everyone else really.

I dont understand what you meant by :

"NO DONT DO THAT, BUT THE LINK IS HERE [link] " is just asking for someone to click on the link."
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:iconslippymagnus:
SlippyMagnus Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Why try to tell us you're against it, if you're not planning on doing anything? Anything worth doing is difficult, otherwise you'd've done it already (like Breathing).

I was saying that you're sending a Double-Message by saying you're against it, and providing a click-able link to it.

You don't like it, and you'd enjoy it to be ended, but you have no power over it. You lack the power necessary, but you WOULD end it if you could, yes?
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