All I can say is think of all the time and effort you put into the work and the overall quality. The minimum wage in the US is $8 per hour I think so if you should compare it to that. There's also the $1=80. Seeing how a lot of people don't know about , you can display the charge in dollar amount and provide a link to a point converter so the person can convert it themselves so they don't immediately think the prices are too high because they aren't.
yeah, that's good.. I read the comments below, regarding $25 and such. I wouldn't make it so low as 10 But don't make it so high as to no one will have an ability to buy it. In a buyer's point of view, its easy to say i'd so buy it, but really think that its not worth it. Try to measure though how LONG it takes you to make ONE, cause it will really accumulate to you not having enough time and thinking what your getting payed with is not worth the time you spend on it. Do trial and error, change them when you think you know your standard rate .
Mhm.. the tricky part is that I think I take freakishly long because I've been experimenting a lot. I should probably wait until I have a set way of drawing/coloring to get an idea of how long it would take for a style I'm comfortable with and the customers get consistancy. ^_^
yeah, I usually spend 6 hours on my chibis which are $3-5, at those times you'll realize if you need to raise it or not. but then do you treasure the time or the service? If someone keeps commissioning you from time to time, then you can assure yourself you can raise it and its probably gonna be fine. but there will be a point that its just too much, so it has to be gradual So, Well no not really.. let the commission form pending and going so you can start with trying to cope with it too. better start early and prepare along with it . That I think is the only way to find out your momentum with commissions, in taking actual commissions. Anyways, good luck
I think $10 would be a good starting price for something like that; maybe $15 at the most for whatever reason, like if the character is really complex or the they want a buncha fine details or something. I think that's a good price for something quick and easy and the commissioner just wants something simple and pretty for a nice low price!
I have to agree with Chim and Jerkules here. With the Point/currency ratio (as stated with $1 being about 80) as it is, you're woefully underselling your art here. You're really talented - you should be charging the likes of $25 for that portrait you mentioned earlier! I would say a thousand times over that is the true 'fair price' for such a piece, not 10. And that Alistair drawing you linked to in the OP, 30 is so low, especially considering it took two days to finish. You deserve much more than 30 points for that! I agree when Chim mentioned 30 dollars for it - that's far more accurate, I'd say.
The state of artists' commission rates on dA is so sad to see these days. So many people undervalue their work! You need to see your art is really worth a lot more. I'm sure many other people will tell you the same!
Yes, I would say you are DEFINITELY underselling yourself with those prices. Keep in mind that $1 = 80, so at the moment you're charging the equivalent of 50¢ for a full-body drawing with shading and a background. That's not just "fairly low", that is ludicrously low. I'm in agreement with ~Jerkules up there: The Alistair piece should be more like 30 dollars, not 30 Points, and work similar to that Sesshomaru head shot is something for which I'd be willing to pay at least $10 to $15. (Had to go it; I know basically jackshit about the character, but the drawing is just so pretty. )
Oh wow thank you so much (and thank you for the fave hehe )
I did wonder about that. If that's the case though I wonder if I should stop point commissions and just do paypal given if I raised the point prices to the dollar equivalent it would look rediculously high.
PayPal, WePay or some other online payment option is probably a good idea. Then you're not limited to buying things only on dA. If you wanted to still do Points commissions, you could offer smaller things for a few hundred Points, like simple sketches or other small drawings that don't take too long to do.
Yeah, that's... that's really low. An A4-sized fully inked/coloured/etc. comic page should be at least the same as an A4-sized inked/coloured/etc. full body drawing, and maybe even more, especially if the comic page is more detailed and more time-consuming. Thinking about prices in terms of dollars first, and then converting to Points instead of the other way around might give you a better idea of costs. Or look at how other comic artists price their work.
How much do you think something like this would be worth? It's not very detailed because it's just a personal project I'm working on. If it was a short comic commission I'd probably spend more time on it. This was a fairly quick piece to make. It still took a couple days (not hours wise, but in spirts within those days) because of the coloring.
I don't think I'm quite the best person to ask for this. My own focus is more toward artisan crafts than drawing. You'd probably get better advice by talking to someone who does similar types of art. That said, I'd probably charge a bit more than for a standard full body drawing, because of the work involved in sequential art. Again, this isn't my personal area of expertise, art-wise.
I would personally look into Paypal (or some money exchange alternative like Amazon Payments, etc.). The point market is horrifically awful because 80 points equals $1 USD, so essentially whenever someone charges something like 30 bucks for a fully rendered drawing, all they're making is chump change. The amateur art market generally undersells themselves in general, but what most people ask for in points is just the worst of the worst, in my opinion!
The great thing about being an artist is you can always set your own prices. What do you think you're worth? Like for that Alistair drawing and other coloured pieces like that (single character coloured drawings), I believe you could easily start at $25+. The hardest thing will be selling yourself and getting yourself a market, but that's something you have to do regardless. xD
Oh wow. I didn't know it would be worth $25 0.0 Hehe
Would it be weird to have the point commissions the same, but also sell with regular money starting at $10 for head shots? Given 80 = $1 it would definitely be a lot cheaper to just buy with points. Unless I scrap the point commissions all together? Technically I don't need points. I'm mostly saving up so I can buy art on DA or maybe save for future contests or something.
And no, I don't think that would be weird at all! It could be handy for those who would maybe want different paying options, and like for you, it's a mean to support yourself in the community without having to break open the bank. If you want to have both methods, you could try converting your USD prices into points. ^_^ If you wanted to sell that Alistair painting for let's say, 30 bucks, with 1 USD = 80 points, then the price in points would be 2,400 points for someone who wanted to pay that way. There's actually a really nifty point to dollars converter that can do all the conversions really easily: [link] .
Oh wow haha thanks so much! I still have a whole lot of learning to do, but that's what I love about being on DA. ^_^ I also don't diversify my art as much as I should. I do have an anime project going on but so far I'm only on my second character. XD Summer is coming up though so hopefully I get a whole lot more drawings in.
Okay, I'm curious, want to collaborate with me? Like we could do commissions together. We could do comics, you do the art and I do the words? Then we can make the points where it can be split in half? -- Do you like that? If so, let's make an example so that people can see what we can do! And how much they should cost?
Oh tempting... It's funny because I'm actually recruiting for a collab effort with my Dragon Age comic I'm working on. It's just a bunch of friends/volunteers working together so it's not for profit or anything though. So far I have two definitely interested in color and shading and I'm actually still looking for someone to fill in the speech bubbles.
Dunno how into Dragon Age you are, but here's the link if you care to take a gander: So far all the art work in this comic is done by me. We haven't divided the work load just yet.
If you really want it to be a for-profit thing though, I wouldn't mind being a partner with you. The comic would pretty much look like the one in the thumbnail.
Here's the most recent page: What do you think?
It would take a bit to do though so they'd have to know that it would take a while and probably be a bit more costly than a regular commission especially with the amount of pages it would take.
Why don't you send me a note and we can discuss details.
honestly im not sure because i dont do point commissions. Your art is interesting. its not my preferred style but i think you could start charging more when you build a bigger portfolio and work on the anatomy and positions a bit.
Yeah I definitely have to practice anatomy. I don't plan on updating my price list any higher than this until I really feel like it's worth it, but it's good to get a starting gauge. Thanks for the comment.