Shop Mobile More Submit  Join Login

Details

Closed to new replies
December 25, 2016
Link

Statistics

Replies: 156

I AM A GLBAL WARMING DENIER - LET'S TALK

:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2016
Climate changes - that's a fact. But let us suppose for a moment that the planet is warming up, let us suppose for a moment that this is due to Human activity.

1: How is this a problem?

2: What solution can you offer?
Reply

You can no longer comment on this thread as it was closed due to no activity for a month.

Devious Comments

:icon525600-midgets:
525600-Midgets Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2017
I recommend fucking yourself in the ass.
Reply
:icondefinedeviancydown:
DefineDeviancyDown Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Consider:

Climatologist and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology Judith Curry has announced her resignation effective immediately on her blog, Climate, Etc. Curry is an honest researcher and a fair-minded disputant in the ongoing debates over man-made climate change. She excelled at pointing out the uncertainties and deficiencies of climate modeling. Given the thoroughly politicized nature of climate science her efforts to clarify what is known and unknown by climate science caused her to be pilloried as "anti-science" by other researchers who are convinced that man-made global warming is leading toward catastrophe.

climatechangedispatch.com/dise…

Hopefully this is just the beginning of defections from the junk science of global warming!!!
Reply
:icontheocrat7:
Theocrat7 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Although I do not believe we are being told the truth about anthropomorphic global warming (the whole solar system actually goes through approximately 11 and 22 year cycles of warming and cooling). Also, search on Climategate and read the documented evidence that we have been being lied to. If you can remember back this long, in the 70's our self-proclaimed scientific dictators were warning us to fear global cooling.

But for sake of argument, lets say the globe is on a warming trend caused by human activity and here are my answers:

1. I might spend more time suntanning naked and getting skin cancer.
2. Suspend all taxes across the globe then everyone could afford energy efficient solutions. End all government activity because they are by far the worst offenders.
Reply
:iconhinemineko:
HinemiNeko Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2017
>the whole solar system actually goes through approximately 11 and 22 year cycles of warming and cooling
That is not consistent with actual solar output(which is not on the increase)
www.skepticalscience.com/globa…
www.skepticalscience.com/solar…

>in the 70's our self-proclaimed scientific dictators were warning us to fear global cooling.
That was a fringe theory overblown by the media:
www.skepticalscience.com/ice-a…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_c…
Concern peaked in the early 1970s, though "the possibility of anthropogenic warming dominated the peer-reviewed literature even then" [1] (a cooling period began in 1945, and two decades of a cooling trend suggested a trough had been reached after several decades of warming). This peaking concern is partially attributable to the fact much less was then known about world climate and causes of ice ages.
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2017
:D Thank you for commenting!
Reply
:iconpoeticalpha:
PoeticAlpha Featured By Owner Edited Dec 31, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
1: Co2 is going to continue to cause an imbalance in the chemical makeup of the earth's atmosphere faster than humans can naturally evolve. Carbon dioxide traps and holds heat and you don't want to disturb the temperature balance of all the biomes the earth has to offer. Immediately, we have to worry about rising sea levels due to melting polar icecaps. Mankind should be concerned with making sure we preserve as much land as possible in a world that's quickly reaching its carrying capacity. As we advance towards the estimated human population cap of about 10billion (speculated to be reached by the year 2050), the Earth's atmosphere and resources are going to become increasingly more important to sustain.

2: Reduce Co2 emission by advancing studies in the fields of solar and wind harvesting. You can also begin researching Co2 recycling. You could plant more flora to do the recycling for you. We could all move to another planet and dry that resource pool out. Theoretically, we could even take a day out of the week to not drive anywhere and we'd at least slow the effects of global warming. 
Reply
:iconsonicgirl018:
sonicgirl018 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Do what you can to make the world just a little less polluted. like recycle or something.
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2017
And that is a brilliant truth.
Reply
:iconsonicgirl018:
sonicgirl018 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:)
Reply
:iconpixiefairydustpinup:
pixiefairydustpinup Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2016  Student General Artist
1: If human activity is changing our climate and these changes aren't planned or predictable, then the future is very uncertain. If we don't know what these changes are or how they will affect us, then our response will likely be inadequate.  

2: Obviously we'd have to determine what activity is causing the planet to warm up or the climate to change. Then find an alternative way of doing it without harming the planet. 
Reply
:iconsleepingbagboy:
sleepingbagboy Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
to be honest the sooner humans wipe themselves off the face of the planet the better the quicker the earth will heal
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2016
Okay. Thanks for commenting.
Reply
:icondoc-skitz:
Doc-Skitz Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Climate change, like Darwinism, is junk science!
Reply
:iconpoeticalpha:
PoeticAlpha Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
What's Co2 ppm anyways?!
Reply
:icondoc-skitz:
Doc-Skitz Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
400 PPM in the Antarctic, surpassing the readings junk scientists took four million years ago! Once again they can't predict with any certainty what next week's weather will be, but they know with absolute assurance the weather a hundred years hence.
Reply
:iconpoeticalpha:
PoeticAlpha Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
The first accurate scientific data supporting the fact that Co2 traps heat was performed in the 1960s. Since, Co2 and temperature correlations have stood strong and the levels also don't ever go down. It's been a constant and steady rising rate since we first started keeping track.

But who knows?! The thermometers could be rigged!!!
Reply
:icondoc-skitz:
Doc-Skitz Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Depends who does the analysis. Results can always be skewed. For instance, placing thermometers at airports creating proximal causality from all that jet exhaust, burning kilotons of kerosene. Then you got the artificially heated Urban Heat Island effect! And on and on...................... deck stacking for the desired result.
Reply
:iconpoeticalpha:
PoeticAlpha Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
It's a bit hard to believe that everyone does their analysis of Co2 levels at local airports but I could be mistaken. I'm hopping out of this clickbait thread THE FACE OF PURE DISGUST 
Reply
:icondoc-skitz:
Doc-Skitz Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Not everyone, just those who would propagandize global warming, God knows, there are enough of those charlatans.
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2016
Okay. Thank you for commenting.
Reply
:icondoc-skitz:
Doc-Skitz Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you for the opportunity!
Reply
:icongajus-tempus:
gajus-tempus Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016
once again - a simple comic strip will answer quite a LOT of questions (simplicity is the key to make complex stuff understandable - even to those with limited brain capacity):

xkcd.com/1732/
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2016
Thank you for commenting.
Reply
:iconsoaringwings38:
SoaringWings38 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
1. Low places such as the Netherlands and Florida could be over taken by rising sea levels. For those places even a half meter could cover a large portion of the region.

2. Build more dikes and pumps to keep low places dry.
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2016
1. That's a good point.

2. That's another good point; that you for commenting!
Reply
:iconscottahemi:
ScottaHemi Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I find the hysteria over it the annoying thing

HYPERCANES WILL RAVAGE THE EARTH BY 2009!!! "al gore" 

it's 2017... where's my hypercane >: | 
Reply
:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist
Your forgot to mention the freezing hurricanes :lol:
Reply
:iconkajm:
Kajm Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Would you settle for a candycane?
Reply
:iconscottahemi:
ScottaHemi Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
is it rootbeer flavor?
Reply
:iconkajm:
Kajm Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Oh, that would make my day if it was! *lick* YES! Mine!
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016
Well, I'd give you a hypercane, but I only have the one. . . Sorry. <: (
Reply
:iconkajm:
Kajm Featured By Owner Edited Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Getting about what you expected on this thread?

It is sad to see people spouting about things when their whole equation amounts to     2 +              = What they've been Told.            As opposed to reality.

Oh, and all the cries of 'ignorance!' 
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2016
Yeah, so far this is as expected. :)
Reply
:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Hobbyist
Human activity is putting more CO2 into the air (ie pollution) than what normally is there, which limits the amount of heat that can escape the atmosphere (cutting down the rain forests isn't helping things at all). The extra warming results in increase water evaporation, and the extra water vapor also holds heat. Combining the two snowballs the effect and makes things worse. Have you ever kept your car out in the heat with the windows up? Same idea. Even though the glass is clear, the heat cannot escape.

The oceans absorb the extra CO2 which leads to the oceans become more acidic. This jeopardizes fish and has already causing havoc with the great reef in Australia.

Humans can surely adapt, but wildlife cannot always...that's a problem. I love wildlife, and we are stewards of the planet. We should take care of it. 

As for a solution, I cannot think of anything other than what we're already trying. Limited greenhouse emissions and give the earth a chance to heal itself.

Whether global warming is actually a natural phenomenon instead of man made is irrelevant to me. Especially since the current solution is limiting pollution. That's a good thing.
Reply
:iconusagitoxic:
UsagiToxic Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I've read once that the primary producers of CO2 are wild untouched forests which are prone to catching fire, i.e. something that humans really have no control over. 
Reply
:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist
That's pretty interesting. I haven't heard that before. Do you by any chance have a link? Thanks!
Reply
:iconusagitoxic:
UsagiToxic Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Even if I had, this would not be in English, so I doubt that it would be of any use. 
Reply
:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2016  Hobbyist
Translation sites have come a long way :)
Reply
:iconkajm:
Kajm Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Reply
:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist
I'll check this out today. Thank you!
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016
How much CO2 is 'normally' in the air? Because ice cores show that at many times in the Earth's history there has been much much more CO2 in the air than there is today. Water vapor is not glass windows: clouds(water vapor) reflect up to 20% of solar radiation that strike them back out into space. There is a reason that cloudy days are cooler than sunny days!

Oceanographers have registered a PH change of .1, from 8.1 to 8.1 over the past 150 years.

Wildlife can adapt - wildlife has been adapting for about 4 Billion years.

I agree that limiting pollution is a good thing - I do not agree with certain people who claim that vast social changes must be made, including handing over to governments vast powers to make and enforce laws that destroy industries, careers, and lives.
Reply
:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist
How much CO2 is normally in the air? For recorded history there has been on average 280 parts per million (ppm). Today we are sitting on over 400 ppm. This hasn't occurred since long before humans were around, when there was very high volcanic activity.

I know water vapor is not glass, that is called an analogy. Not a difficult concept to grasp. Water vapor, and an extension clouds, holds heat in. Cloudy days feel cooler because you don't get direct sun light on your skin. Spend some time in any of the northern states/countries during winter and you'll see clear days are much colder than cloudy days.

Having a governing board (such as government) who can hold companies accountable are a necessity because companies rarely police themselves. Time and time again they take shortcuts and the local environment (and towns) are the ones paying the price.
Reply
:iconpheasant-one:
Pheasant-One Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Why do you hate polar bears?

Clearly Climate Change denialism is a Panda conspiracy. 
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016
Somehow, I get the feeling that might be sarcasm.
Reply
:iconkajm:
Kajm Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Cute.
Reply
:iconpheasant-one:
Pheasant-One Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
This issue isn't cute.

It's a serious concern.
Reply
:iconkajm:
Kajm Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
True. The taxes alone will amount to $Trillions.
Reply
:iconns-volkova:
NS-Volkova Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
As a general question, how does global warming makes cold even climates colder? Should it not be the opposite (cold climates disappearing)? Winters are becoming colder, and summers get hotter. Heck, it had snowed in the Sahara desert, which had not happened for a good 37 years.

Is it really global warming, or global cooling, or some other unknown cause?
Reply
:iconterragradan:
Terragradan Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
You're not a denier, just ignorant of what climate change implies. Read up on it. Get away from these popular entertainment media sources and laymen and read the scientific consensus and their research on the matter.

As for solutions, that would be for humanity to lower our emissions of greenhouse gases, but it seems to late for that anyway and the big players seem rather unwilling to do much of anything, so nope. No realistic solution in sight. Not when we depend on us all to work together.
Reply
:iconjochannon:
jochannon Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016
Typical. Rather than actually talk with me, you dismiss me as ignorant, and rather than actually give arguments you say to get educated.

You're worthless. Why did you bother commenting? You contribute nothing, you say nothing, all you have done is waste time.
Reply
Add a Comment: