Jon Stewart brings the hammer down on nationalists


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www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmrTIm…
Did anyone else see this? its great! 
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Sounds to me like the blood-drowned screams of a dying left.

Yes, America belongs to the Americans, and if anyone else in the world wants to become American as well, there are channels by which they can do so. All that's required to do is ensure that their loyalties are actually with America, and they're willing to back up that loyalty by spending some portion of their lives working in it's favor.
I do hope that your name is ironic, because whereas countries succeed under nationalism, they falter and die under socialism, and if you really are a Maoist, you've no grounds to flaunt intellectual or moral superiority.
TheMaoist's avatar
We are the strongest right now then we ever have been. 

Countries falter and die under nationalism. 
PennsyltuckyXTimes's avatar
Hardly. We're being surpassed educationally by every humdrum European and Asian nation around and militarily China and Russia are quickly closing the gap. Not to mention, the effects of the transition to a service economy has been downright horrid on the U.S..... Unemployment through the roof, the middle class shrinking, taxes literally out the ass and our influence around the world facing growing challenges.... This is the most horrid condition our country has been in since the late 60's early 70's. Something's got to change or we're in for a rough decade.

And countries only falter and die under nationalism if they become too narrow minded and insular. An outward thinking nationalism the only way a country can survive.  
TheMaoist's avatar
I'm not talking about America. 
Not really.
The Japanese are nationalist, and they always have been. Socialism might be popular among middle-class college kids with no real knowledge of politics or economics, but there's a reason why socialist nations don't last.
Because they don't work, and until we live in a post-scarcity society, they never will.
TheMaoist's avatar
Japanese people laugh at white nationalist cunts like you. Stop acting like theyre on your side. 
RobStrand's avatar
You really need to bone up on your history.  The Japanese are hardcore Nationalist, the Second Sini-Japanese War proves my point about Imperialism and Nationalism at it's very worst. 
TheMaoist's avatar
Have you ever met a Japanese person? They don't tolerate white supremacist fucks. 
RobStrand's avatar
Of all people you should know, they slaughter the Chinese like sheep. 
Once again, they're nationalists, which you would know if you actually kept up with Japanese culture and politics. This effectively destroys your "hurr, nationalists destroy their own countries" idiotic argument that you're putting forth.
JooPe's avatar
It's debatable whether or not socialism failed due to technologies making scarcity obsolete not being available, but it is certainly asinine to claim they failed without external pressure from capitalist nations/empire.

Currently, it is capitalism which is not only preventing a 'post-scarcity society' (sustainable technologies are not profitable), but rapidly driving us towards destruction. The right-wing power-base simply ignores this reality while pretending their delusional, tribalist nationalism will protect them from global devastation. It won't.
Socialism, at it's core, fails because governments can't determine market values. Whether or not your neighbor is a capitalist nation or not has no real impact upon this, except perhaps that a nation that HASN'T been subjected to revolutionary uprising is generally and more productive.

I have to say though, you're incredibly naive in your grasp on economics. Even the greediest, most vicious capitalist would not see merit in the act of profit to the point of death; capitalist entities are inherently self-preserving and ever-expanding, and environmental or national catastrophe only threatens the bottom line in deep, implacable ways.
In the end, though, capitalism works simply because it's what you get when we employ the "keep what you earn" principle, as opposed to socialism which wants to cut and divide in the name of fairness, regardless of merit or contribution. Socialism is an approach to economics that has never lasted in the long term, because it's inherently self-refuting, and modern day socialists are akin to inventors who, instead of embracing modern economics, are still drumming over how to make da Vinci's flying machine work, long after it's been rendered obsolete.
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"Whether or not your neighbor is a capitalist nation or not has no real impact upon this..."
You dumbass, of course it has a real impact given since industrialisation all nations are dependent on foreign resources. No system exists in a vacuum meaning no system stands or falls entirely on it's own merits, and merely because previous models have failed does not mean differing models may work, no matter what you want to tell yourself.

"I have to say though, you're incredibly naive in your grasp on economics."
No this would be you, given you seem to believe the super-rich will spontaneously restrain their greed 'because reasons', despite many denying the scientific reality of climate change. This also reveals your scientific ignorance, given the effects/acceleration of climate change do not occur in real time but take decades to fully manifest. It also reveals your ignorance regarding human nature, given nihilism and self-destruction are fundamental aspects of the human condition, most clearly observable in the self-destructive insanity exhibited by the right-wing power-base.

"Socialism is an approach to economics that has never lasted in the long term, because it's inherently self-refuting..."
You have yet to demonstrate how this is so.

"...modern day socialists are akin to inventors who, instead of embracing modern economics, are still drumming over how to make da Vinci's flying machine work, long after it's been rendered obsolete."
Actually that would be 'free-market' capitalists, given they cannot allow truly efficient or clean technology to emerge because it cuts into profits, hence planned obsolescence. Except they aren't merely holding back progress, they are actively driving us off a cliff.
"You dumbass, of course it has a real impact given since industrialisation all nations are dependent on foreign resources"
But capitalist nations are motivated by profit, and it's only if those nations have no fiscal interest to us (or if the country's government decides to impose trade embargoes) do we avoid dealing with them. The only reason why surrounding, capitalist nations would avoid doing business with socialist nations is if those nations have nothing to offer, such as if it were in the grip of extremist dictatorships or if it's means of production were pure garbage... which is generally the case in socialist nations.

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No this would be you, given you seem to believe the super-rich will spontaneously restrain their greed 'because reasons', despite many denying the scientific reality of climate change."
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Those "reasons" being self-preservation. I sincerely doubt capitalists will drive themselves into an early grave for the sake of temporary profit, even if most of them are scientifically ignorant as of the current date.
You should read more often, as your comprehension skills are in dire need of work.


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You have yet to demonstrate how this is so."
Start at home. Show me a nation with socialist values that is economically successful. If you can't do that, my point is already established.


"Actually that would be 'free-market' capitalists, given they cannot allow truly efficient or clean technology to emerge because it cuts into profits, hence planned obsolescence. Except they aren't merely holding back progress, they are actively driving us off a cliff."
Whatever you say. Socialist nations (like Mao-era China and the USSR) have fallen or undergone in the past, to repair the damage of it's failing, past ideologies. Meanwhile, those evil, capitalist, "anti-progress" economies, like the US, are still here and still economically successful.
That must hurt... being so wrong. Or you're in a stage of deep denial, the likes of which I've never seen.
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intermetal's avatar
Nothing Liebowitz said had anything to do with nationalism. So no...
TheMaoist's avatar
His name is Stewart so cut the shit. 

And yes it does....did you even watch the god damned video? 
His last name IS Liebowitz, just as statement of fact, just like Walter Bruce Willis.
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Theres no reason to mention that 
There's no reason to hide from it either, nor reason to chastise others for bringing it up.
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Yeah there kindve is. Hes trying to treat him as lesser because of his jewish heritage. 
Then that's on him. But there's nothing intrinsically bigoted in bringing up somebody's true last name.
intermetal's avatar
That's his crypto goy name. How did I know he would be one of (((them)))?
TheMaoist's avatar
I see your being antisemitic and I am not surprised. 
intermetal's avatar
What you call 'Antisemitism' is a mere ability to notice patterns.