Turkey's playing a dangerous game here. I'm not quite sure whether Erdogan is aware that Putin does just not give a fuck. If push came to shove I would expect Russia to just go in and obliterate anything the Turks throw them. 

Hello again. I wanted to give some insight into the situation at hand. A few weeks prior to the downing of the jet, Turkey was full of news about Turkmens getting bombarded by Russia. One Turkmen fighter made a statement that Russian jets dive in by waves of tens. Turkmens were driven from all over northern Iraq and northern Syria by the Kurds who have been ethnically cleansing the area from the Turks and Arabs (story here: www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10…). They were driven to the west more and more and finally got cornered in the most western side of the north Syria on the map. And while they were fortified up they could hold up against Kurds and Assads army. But now that the Russia came into the geography they started bombarding everyone except Isis. This included the Turkmens. With the help of Russian bombardments Assads army could just keep killing more and more Turkmens, resulting in like 25.000 Turkmens to storm refugee for the Turkish border. This was the beginning of the tensions between Turkey and Russia. This is because America actually listened when Turkey said they won't tolerate crimes against Turkmens.

The whole idea is to cleanse the northern petrol corridor from Turks and Arabs and turning it into a mono-ethnic region. Because Kurds don't mind selling Iraqi petrol to the world for cheap. Both the Russia and the Western countries want this but the thing they can't agree upon is who will control the spice. A puppet Kurdish corridor state playing for the West or a pro-Russian Assad government allied with Iran?

Anyway the division in northern Syria and Iraq and the place being handed to the Kurds on the expanse of the blood of Turks and Arabs have resulted in a most bloody and painful results for Turkey in the last couple of months. Kurds in Turkey kept attacking Turkish soldiers and policemen and civilians who opposed pro-kurdism with an insane drive. Hundreds of Turkish citizens have been killed by them because they were using the urban warfare tactics they learned in north Syria in southeastern Turkey. They had access to insane amount of weapons and donations thanks to the heroic image they were given by the international media. And Turkmens getting even more killed on their last standing fortress simply drove the Turkish government and the nationalist Turish army over their edge. I was even surprised that they didn't do more than downing just one jet.

I don`t think Russia is after anyone apart from its own interests, yes I support Russia taking back the Crimea and supporting Assad.
I will not lift a finger in any war while I see Turkey helping ISIL and as Turkey is apart of NATO, NATO is helping ISIL.

I would rather defect to Russia than fight for lies and bankers.

Turkey is not Ukraine or Georgia. On a conventional level Russia and Turkey would appear equal but training and professionalism is on Turkey's side. There will be no talk of Russian tanks rolling into Istanbul as there were with Kiev.

It's so funny to listen to Russia and Turkey talk about the incident.  The stories being told are such polar opposites of each other...  If it is possible, I would say that both of them are probably lying.  There is no integrity in international relations.  Even the definition of "friendship" between countries is so different from how individuals think of the term.  It's just non-stop backstabbing and political posturing.    

Well, Russia should have pulled the trigger already back in '84, when everyone was ready for the nuclear holocaust. Now, wars are just shit.

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