Is there a stronger connection with art within left or right wing ideas?
It may just be that my own philosophies attract like-minded people, but most of the time in my day-to-day life artists tend to be left-leaning (Socialists, Communists, Collectivists, or "filthy Liberals" 
). Then when I come to DeviantArt, a site for artists, people seem to be right-leaning (Capitalists, Progressives, Nationalists, or Conservatives).
What kinds of philosophies, if any, do you guys see prevailing in artistic communities?
Note: This is a thread meant to highlight correlation between economic theory and the arts. For debating "which theory is better" I'd prefer that you go to one of the many threads dedicated to that.
). Then when I come to DeviantArt, a site for artists, people seem to be right-leaning (Capitalists, Progressives, Nationalists, or Conservatives).What kinds of philosophies, if any, do you guys see prevailing in artistic communities?
Note: This is a thread meant to highlight correlation between economic theory and the arts. For debating "which theory is better" I'd prefer that you go to one of the many threads dedicated to that.
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Well, everyone went home or something?
Guess that settles it. (?)
Guess that settles it. (?)
Well, check the profiles of left leaning posters. Check the profiles of right leaning posters. In my experience, i've only seen one far right poster who had actually made art. That said, his art was on some "killer of women" levels of disturbing shit. Most right wing nuts on these boards simply come here to post, nothing more. Deviantart forums aren't an after thought for them, its the very reason they're here. Right wingers can "win" any exchange, because in the mind of a right wing nut, you don't have to make any sense. You just have to be dumb enough to only see things from your POV. Once the other guy gets tired of the pointless debate, he quits wasting time, and boom, the right wing nut "wins". I see this again and again and again and again. Some boards (neogaf) will just flat out ban people for this kind of behavior. Most boards will ban for any sort of dog whistle or blatant racist comment. Also, a right winger could say the most offensively racist drivel, yet maintain that they are somehow, not a racist. In fact, you're a racist for calling them out. Its a real fascinating thing to behold. I've studied these creatures for some time now. These creatures typically graze on bungie.net and deviantart. Basically, any board that will let them throw out offensive language (ex: the n word or any variation/implication of it.) is a place where you're sure to find right wing nuts.
Actually there're several professional artists among the right-leaning people here.
Well, here's someone who isn't left-wing. I'll let you decide if I make "real art" or not.
You should take some time and do nothing but gesture figures. Break things down into simple shapes first, then come back and refine. This book is also amazing: Michael Hampton- Figure Drawing - Design and Invention.
Umm, thanks for the input?
This is still a debate topic, though.
My stuff isn't exactly "killer of women"-type stuff, is it?
This is still a debate topic, though.
My stuff isn't exactly "killer of women"-type stuff, is it?
nope. Thanks, you're the first one i've met.
Trust me, there's many, many more.
Crappy disturbing shit art was originally a left idea.
Nothing you have said on any thread has made any sense.
All you can post are long ad-hominem riddled, illiterate rants.
You called a right-winger on here a “peckerwood“ which is in itself a racist derogatory term against white people. You, of all people on this forum, are in no place to talk about “racism“.
Every single time you have spawned an argument on this forum, you get BTFO day in and day out.
All you can post are long ad-hominem riddled, illiterate rants.
You called a right-winger on here a “peckerwood“ which is in itself a racist derogatory term against white people. You, of all people on this forum, are in no place to talk about “racism“.
Every single time you have spawned an argument on this forum, you get BTFO day in and day out.
You'll also notice that most of the attacks on intelligence are thrown by leftists. They make unfair claims that are far too broad and can't seem to accept that intelligent people might disagree with them.
I mean seriously? Do you think that anything you said helps anyone?
I mean seriously? Do you think that anything you said helps anyone?
well I did give an example of someone making racist comments, while claiming to not be racist. How is any person with intelligence supposed to respond to that? Here's another one, supply-side economics have been implemented nationally, by individual states, and sometimes just city wide. If you look at the track record, any reasonable person would conclude that supply-side econ crashes economies. Now regardless of this, you have people who still argue in favor of it. In fact, they call people who disagree, "libertards" or whatever. So, yeah, I'm gonna attack a person's lack of intelligence when they carry on in this manner. Seriously, you have a thread where people are claiming that people intermixing=white genocide. I mean what the actual fuck?
I don't disagree with your stance in its majority, but I disagree with the premise that irrationality equates to imbecility. Plenty of racist people contributed to society in multiple positive ways, all the while not thinking of themselves as racist. The same goes for supply-side economists. These two aspects of life (irrationality and intelligence) are simply unrelated, or at least unrelated enough to not overlap much.
If things are bothersome, as are the arguments lacking elaboration that intermixing=white genocide, it's best to ignore them than kindle the flame. If these people have things to actually elaborate with, it is worth arguing if you have the ability. Ad hominem tactics such as attacks on intelligence do not constitute an argument and are worse than making a poor starting statement, as they only multiply the amount of hatred in a discussion. This is the stance I take. Calling a racist an idiot will never make a racist stop and think that they shouldn't be a racist. It will only ignite further hatred.
If things are bothersome, as are the arguments lacking elaboration that intermixing=white genocide, it's best to ignore them than kindle the flame. If these people have things to actually elaborate with, it is worth arguing if you have the ability. Ad hominem tactics such as attacks on intelligence do not constitute an argument and are worse than making a poor starting statement, as they only multiply the amount of hatred in a discussion. This is the stance I take. Calling a racist an idiot will never make a racist stop and think that they shouldn't be a racist. It will only ignite further hatred.
I've had exchanges with these people. They present inanely one sided "statistics" which are clearly steeped in an agenda. When you don't conform to their way of thinking, or you tell them that they lack the proper amount of education to even be discussing such a thing, they turn the tables and label you a racist or whatever. Look, i'm not just here "attacking" anyone. This is after a number of post with some of these people. In fact, there's a very popular post on this very thread where one person "attacks" several other posters. I don't really see anyone calling him out. I call racist people idiots because thats exactly what they are. If you have someone who believes "whites are under attack and are becoming a minority in their own country", you have a colossal moron who is not gonna suddenly stop being a moron due to any amount of evidence or soft words. I call them idiots and be done with them.
Do you think I haven't had similar exchanges? I'm an anarcho-communist, for Christ's sake. But yes you are attacking people, and I've dealt with enough of that bullshit within the last couple weeks to fit in a fucking year. Do you want me to call this "popular post" out? Is that what you want me to do? I mean shit, how much do I have to spell out that intelligence and irrational belief are unrelated? Do I have to talk about Edison thinking he was a psychic even though he made no headway in such abilities? Do I have to talk about the intense dependence on empirical evidence when it's been proven through multiple means that empirical evidence is more than flawed? How about scholars that rely on the peer review system, which is evident to be contradictory and unreliable? Maybe Tolkien, who was a brilliant novelist but also a VERY traditionalist Catholic? But I'm sorry, all of these people are colossal morons overall because they believe something I deem irrational, huh?
Sorry for the anger, but dude. I'm so sick of this sort of behaviour. And yes, this is an attack. I'll admit that.
Sorry for the anger, but dude. I'm so sick of this sort of behaviour. And yes, this is an attack. I'll admit that.
You went off into some tangent that has...nothing to do with....anything really. Still, I don't know why you're directing your sights at me. If you were pissed off at my post, then this entire thread should've made your head explode by now.
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Why do you equate 'racism' with being right wing? True, Leon Trotsky, a mass-murdering Bolshevik, basically coined the phrase to demonise Slavic solidarity, and it is mostly now used by globalist Leftists who seek to destroy white nations by giving their people no basis to stand against replacement-level Third-World immigration. But one can also find some Leftist icons, like Che Guevara and Gandhi, making uncharitable observations concerning black Africans. Is it OK for Leftists to notice that the races are different? Does an opinion on race (and a desire to see one's own survive with a homeland) trump all other political views when it comes to position on the Left-Right continuum?
If I wanted Britain to be Communist and 100% white, would I be more 'right wing' or 'left wing' than if I conformed to the race-blind, 'traditional conservatice' / 'classical Liberal' policies of UKIP?
If I wanted Britain to be Communist and 100% white, would I be more 'right wing' or 'left wing' than if I conformed to the race-blind, 'traditional conservatice' / 'classical Liberal' policies of UKIP?
I read: "Why do you equate 'racism' with being right wing?" and stopped. Reading and comprehension.
I have to say that one's political leaning has nothing to do with one's racism. I know of leftist racists ...and then you have your common, garden variety, xenophobic bigots and racists like we see in a couple of classic examples here.
All racists are total fuckwits, regardless of their politics, and most will not own their racism, as you might have said earlier, but need to accuse those who point out their racism as being 'racist'.
All racists are total fuckwits, regardless of their politics, and most will not own their racism, as you might have said earlier, but need to accuse those who point out their racism as being 'racist'.
my reference to racism was only an example of someone's stupidity.
How very lazy of you. Reading and comprehension don't seem to be your strong points, indeed.
^ this sort of nonsense is a fine example of what i was talking about.
Nonsense is what were you were talking.
because in the mind of a right wing nut, you don't have to make any sense
Just replace "right" by "left" in this and you got some notorious leftist's description. Example: comments.deviantart.com/18/204…
This being said you're doing exactly the same shit here. In fact it sounds like leftists feel horribly insulted by the sole idea they could not have art's monopoly.