In Syria, turkey gasses you.


Last year, Syrian militants staged a false flag chemical weapon attack that is alleged to have killed 1300 people.

Militants filmed themselves firing gas canisters similar to chemical weapons built by Saddam and posted them online.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_FEl…

The MSM tried blaming the attacks instead on Assad.

Chemical weapons were traced to a US facility in Georgia, named after Senator Robert Lugar.

"After widespread media speculation in April 2013 that Georgia was housing a bio-weapons lab ... the Georgian government formally announced the liquidation of this Center, with no reason being given"

"Former media advisor to the President Jeffrey Silverman believes that the laboratory was probably engaged in developing viruses rather than studying them. He also stated that the centre existed when this was denied, and has since demonstrated how a large quantity of weapons, including bio weapons, have found their way to the world’s trouble spots in support of the US position via Georgia. He also has plans of a facility within the Center which appears to be designed for disposing of bodies. Staff working at the centre responded to these claims by hospitalising him in November of this year by hitting him on the forehead with a thrown brick."


journal-neo.org/2014/02/15/geo…

Seymour Hersh wrote in April this year that the false flag attack was carried out by Turkey, citing US anonymous officials. The claims were given credibility by a leaked recording of the Turkish PMr Erdogan talking about staging a false flag attack to start a war with Syria.

Gordon Duff, a former military analyst, claims there is a plan by Israel and the US to stage another chemical gas attack, possibly in Israel, to be blamed on Syria, and if the public doesn't buy that, frame Turkey for the attack.

www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/…

Talking points:

- Do you think Syria was behind the chemical weapons attacks?

- Why are chemical weapon attacks so bad? Isn't this a far worse way to die:

A total of twelve Alawite villages were subjected to this horrendous attack. That was a true slaughterhouse. People were mutilated and beheaded. There is even a video that shows a girl being dismembered alive – alive! – by a frame saw. The final death toll exceeded 400, with 150 to 200 people taken hostage

- Why are we giving assistance to Al Qaeda in Syria? Weren't they supposed to be the bad guys or something?

-If there was a chemical gas attack in Israel, would you still support BDS?
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Eraezr's avatar
Weapons manufactured in the US made its way to Syria? Odd.
formatela's avatar
Two of those militants look suspiciously like Elvis and Buddy Holly
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Dastgah's avatar
They would eat the hearts of victims in Liberia, too...after hacking them apart with machetes and filling them with bullets. 
Yep they haven't heard of PR that's for sure.
hannoth's avatar
well, chemical weapons brings the torturing pain with a fire and forget tactic. So it's less cruel on one person, but more cruel in total.
So are you supporting the guys who are dismembering girls while they are still alive because that's less cruel in total? Because they one by one killed 400 people instead of the alleged attack by Syrian Government forces (which was in fact also done by the same Al Qaeda militants)?

Looking forward to seeing some more mental gymnastics from you hannoth because Israel is in bed with Al Qaeda and is even officially supporting them in Syria.
hannoth's avatar
I wasn't claiming support with either side, Both sides use torture and chemical weapons.
Torture is a time consuming act that takes a while to bring maximum suffering to an individual whilst chemical weapons is a quick method to deal (in comparison) less suffering to a large group of people.
So I say that the current government isn't anything good, but like many rebellions, the would-be replacement isn't better.

But I can already tell where this will go, you will say that the Syrian government is a little slice of heaven that won't hurt a fly whilst those evil little jews and their al Qaeda minions want them gone.
That's not truth seeking, that is attention seeking through unpopular opinion.
So you admit Israel is supporting Al Qaeda?
hannoth's avatar
no, My apologies but I keep forgetting that sarcasm doesn't really carry over on the internet.
The second to last part was how I see this conversation and what I can assume your position will be on this.

Ps: earlier you said that Israeli support of al Qaeda was official, when was this declared? or is it like the word "literally" and used as an emphasis.
"The president of the Israeli regime has supported the United States plans to provide foreign-backed militants in Syria with weapons."

www.globalresearch.ca/israel-s…

"
One of the leaders of the Syrian opposition forces on Friday expressed his appreciation for the compassion and care offered to victims of Syria's ongoing civil war by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli people."

www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem…

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Israeli air raids on Syria on Wednesday killed one soldier and injured seven, the Syrian army said, warning that the strikes endangered regional security and stability.

Syria, which has long accused the rebels fighting to oust President Bashar al-Assad of ties to Israel, said the Jewish state's strikes were intended to bolster the opposition."

english.alarabiya.net/en/News/…

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An Iranian diplomat says the Israeli regime is in cahoots with the foreign-sponsored militants operating in Syria.

“We all agree that the principal enemy of the Islamic world and Muslims is the Zionist regime (Israel). The regime is currently colluding with the Takfiri terrorists in Syria and is providing medical care for their wounded, and [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu proudly visits these terrorists in hospital,” said Iran’s Ambassador to Lebanon Ghazanfar Roknabadi."

www.presstv.com/detail/2014/03…

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A leader of the foreign-backed Syrian opposition calls for peace with Israel.

Kamal al-Labwani says peace with Tel Aviv is the only way to topple the Syrian government. He noted that the overthrow of Assad is among Israel's main interests in Syria."

edition.presstv.ir/detail/3583…


A leader of the foreign-backed Syrian opposition calls for forging a coalition with Israel against the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

edition.presstv.ir/detail/3583…

In case you're saying, but that's not necessarily Al Qaeda, it's the other guys they're helping, well, who exactly was dismembering a child with a buzzsaw? Was it even Al Qaeda?


Too extreme for al-Qaeda?!


“ISIS is now officially the biggest and baddest global jihadi group on the planet,” Brookings terror expert William McCants told the New York Times.  “Nothing says ‘hard-core’ like being cast out by Al Qaeda.”


The US government, which protests that it is only helping the “good terrorists” rather than the “bad terrorists” in Syria, will now have to add a third group to the list: the “really, REALLY bad terrorists.”


www.presstv.com/detail/2014/02…

hannoth's avatar
yea, You DO know that pressTV is pretty much an Iranian owned propaganda site, right? the only reason you present them as creditable is because they say what you want to hear, otherwise you would dump them like you do with the mainstream news (who I can guess you see as government controlled propaganda ). Just look at the views on their own country, because nothing bad ever comes from them, but its always those evil foreigners. And yes, they have been caught spinning outright lies.
No matter which country or which background a news outlet has, as long as it fits your views, you follow it.

But obviously whatever I say doesn't fit your views, so it must be a shill action.

As for Israel's support of military action, yes. I can easily see how Israel wants one of their neighbours to be taken care off much like how Israel's neighbours wants Israel gone. this is the long lasting political situation and friction.

The take care of refugee's, Sure, the rebels are part of the people (or at the very least they view themselves as so) who appreciate and wants the best for their people. If these rebels are the best for the people of Syria is open for discussion. But it's still not an official coalition with al Qaeda.

Just a whole lot of propaganda war going on, And neither side is really true. That being said, I'm not going to follow such news channels because of the underdog-is-right mentality.

But I might as well be talking to an anti-sematic wall, either you ignore my statements and call me a sheeple, or you do see the point in my arguments by which you'll call me a shill and ignore it anyway.
Abstract-Mindser's avatar
Clearly its a false flag attack! That one nutter would say it is!
huh?

Didn't MIT confirm that the rocket could not have been fired from Syrian positions.

Not to mention the video showing Syrian militants launching gas attacks.

Not to mention the bio-lab in Georgia being mysteriously shut down (or just renamed). Maybe Robert Lugar didn't appreciate having his name associated with a facility linked to WMD proliferation?
ARI4PHANTINEXX's avatar
There are no "good guys" in this war.
Last time I checked Assad doesn't dismember girls with buzzsaws.
ARI4PHANTINEXX's avatar
when did I say he did?
Never.

But since he didn't, relatively, he's a "good guy".
ARI4PHANTINEXX's avatar
the Syrians who are against him agree that he is a better alternative against al-Qaeda jihadists
Are there any Syrians actually fighting against Assad? They're all foreigners flown in from countries, including Western ones, by Saudi Arabia.

And they'll be coming back. Some are already back in their Western countries.

How long before they start dismembering Westerners?
ARI4PHANTINEXX's avatar
no worries. some are already plotting attacks against western targets.
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deviantART-official's avatar
nothing in human history has killed as many people as a single socialist country
RobStrand's avatar
Communism would like to have a word with you.
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communism and socialism are the same thing