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February 10, 2013
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Petition to propose changes to YT strike policy

:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Whom do you intend to petition?
YouTube Inc. and various third-party affiliates, to be listed below.
(Sony Music Entertainment Japan, Aniplex)

What are your expectations upon final presentation of this petition?
Amendments to the policies regarding copyright strike enforcement, specifically the use of descriptive thumbnails and other exemplary objects which fall under the established US Fair Use legislature.


But let me know what you think, and please check out my link below which will include the full summary of the petition.


Link:
[link]
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:icondamphyr:
damphyr Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013
:lock: Closed by request.
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
Another fucking one.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
I would have to say so...
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:iconkimsy2358:
kimsy2358 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
TITS OR GTFO YOU ARE TAKING UP SPACE!
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Unplanned YouTube Copyright Discussion w/ Henshin Ikeda

[link]



This live stream was directed at everyone who was questioning the petition, and wanted to know more of course on what the petition was generally about.
(multiple guests were also invited into the conversation)
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:iconzetikla:
Zetikla Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Student Photographer
Totally agree with it, YT policy is like a freakin joke and so hypocritic
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The only thing I have a beef with their policies is letting idiots false flagging people's videos and not letting the person who got false flagged to repost the video.
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:iconzetikla:
Zetikla Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Photographer
yeah, i see.. other funny thing is is their copyright school part and guess what they used for it? characters from happy tree frieds! ><
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Still, that petition isn't going to do squat.
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:iconzetikla:
Zetikla Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Student Photographer
unfortunatly
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:iconpakaku:
Pakaku Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Sounds like you're uploading stuff that belongs to Sony, are you?
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Yes, but under fair use I can use it for descriptive purpose.....and i never claim it as mine....
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:iconsiantjudas:
siantjudas Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013   Digital Artist
Fair Use does not mean you can just take whatever you want and use it however you want. Stop using it as an excuse to rip stuff off because you can't come up with stuff on your own.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
I use the thumbnails for descriptive purpose....the thumbnails are not in the videos at all..

please comes to my live stream to hear us explain:
[link]
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:iconsiantjudas:
siantjudas Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013   Digital Artist
That doesn't mean that you have the right to use them. Fair use is complex and several determining factors are taken into consideration for each individual case. It is important to note that fair use is dealt with case by case, there is no "rule" for fair use.

That does not change the fact that you are using material that is not yours because you lack the ability to make it yourself. Stop ripping people off.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
I was hoping you could join us in the live stream so we can talk....or at least join us in the comment section.
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:iconsiantjudas:
siantjudas Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013   Digital Artist
No. Stop using this to whore out your pages. You obviously have no idea how copyright laws work. You have no idea how private businesses operate. Have you even read the terms of service agreement for youtube or any other internet service for that matter? It's clear that you're just talking out of your ass, and are pissed off that someone is calling you out for stealing stuff that doesn't belong to you. So why would I want to join your little circle jerk of uneducated thieves?
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
If you you would like to join the live stream we welcome you..but we do in fact know what we are talking about.
(as an anime reviewer i was challenged 3 times by sony music so I know more then you)


YouTube hides behind the DMCA, and these third parties use that to their advantage...
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Live stream on this issue:

[link]
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No one is going to watch it because we're not interested, asleep or not giving a crap.
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:icondragonquestwes:
DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
And this is supposed to be the forum for debates.

Not for advertising petitions.

I dunno why this thread is still open.
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Neither do I.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Please join us in the live stream if you feel this way..its very crowded right now as it is.
(luv to hear what you really think)

[link]
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't have Gmail or a youtube account and I'm still not interesting in your livestream because I HAVE A LIFE.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
I'm sorry to hear you can't join the live stream, and I feel for ya but we all of our own lives to deal with.
(hope you'll join us next time them)
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Again, I do not have either accounts because I don't want to.
That and I am NOT much of a camera person or own a camera.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
I can understand, and am sorry to hear you can't join us.
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And as for Youtube: that place has its flaws and some of their policies are one of them (namely not letting some users reposting their videos after it got false flagged by idiot fanboys or someone with a massive beef with that said person).
You want to fight about the fair use, good for it.

And DeviantART's rules have more holes in it like swiss cheese, which is why we so many damn rule breakers up to our necks (the porn freaks, spammers and underage are the WORSE in my honest opinion).
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
If you have any questions join me on YouTube...their is a live stream in progress
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:iconasshatproductions:
AssHatProductions Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Read law much?
There actually is a legal precedent for the use of thumbnails and other examplative objects for reviewing purposes..
Besides that, did you even read the entire petition, or view a sampling of the videos this person has posted?
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:iconaapis:
Aapis Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Lol @ people who think everything falls under "fair use", therefore causing the belief that anyone is allowed to use everything for any reason.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
That's not true, but if we are talking about fair use then why is YouTube hiding behind the DMCA all the time...
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:iconaapis:
Aapis Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
They don't hide behind it, they're following the law. They have to, lest they be sued. Either follow the law or be shut down. Your petition does nothing to address any of the issues, and misses the point entirely.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
I believe it addresses the right points, and will benefit the YouTube community as a whole.
(thank you for commenting)
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:iconaapis:
Aapis Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
And I think pigs are green and have unicorn horns. Doesn't mean I'm not on acid.
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:iconnovuso:
Novuso Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
YouTube is a private company and they can do what they want. If you don't like it use a different service. DailyMotion is good alternative that is much more lax in enforcing copyright. Tumbler and Facebook do video uploads as well though I would avoid those.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Thank you for your input :)
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:iconnovuso:
Novuso Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Don't listen to Svataben he is clearly trolling you. I wish you luck with your petition but know that Youtube is in their rights to do these things. YouTube has its' rights to censor what it wants but you too have rights and the petition process is part of those rights. Your petition may not force YouTube to change but it can lead to popular support for a Boycott and people taking their uploads elsewhere. That is the point I was tying to make.
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
1. I am a woman.
2. I am not trolling. Bluntly disagreeing does not equal trolling.
3. The OP spammed this forum with his petition.
4. The little turd has decided to follow/friend me/whatever, and I guess I'll have to block to get their stupid to go away.

Pro-tip: if you don't understand a situation, shutting the fuck up is a good idea.
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
A simple note saying "Please don't watch me" would have been subtle...
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
But less amusing. :lol:
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Still, WHY would he watch you after you were so damn blunt with him?
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I have no idea. The weird thing is, he kept on, even after I bitched on his profile. And i know he saw, 'cause he marked it as spam.
I ended up blocking him. :)
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Thank You :)
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And you'll just blankly ignore this fact, and carry on with your petition, won't you?
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
From where I sit i feel pretty comfortable w/ my actions, and look forward to see where this is going to take me.

(my friends support me, and so does the anime community on YouTube)
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It is going to take you nowhere. :roll:
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
This goes without saying yet again:

Thank you for letting me know on how you feel on this issue, and I'm very sorry you feel this way.
(I'm sorry)
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No, you may not steal their things. Stop whining.
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:iconhenshin-ikeda:
Henshin-Ikeda Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
First signs of criticism...thank you :)
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