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Black Rambo wages war on LAPD!

:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013   Artist
So, firstly -- the guy (ex-cop, ex-military) killed at least 3 people, including another cop, and will justifiably die for it. That said, I'm kind of rooting for Rambo on this one! I hope he takes down every corrupt cop before they grease him, as the notoriously corrupt LAPD (having shot two people by mistake while blood-hunting this man) have 0 intention of taking him alive as he is likely to be seen as a hero by many. Until I see otherwise...the only people I feel are really in any danger from this guy are associated in some way with those he describes in his letter, which is telling as fuck about the current state of the LAPD. [link]

Anyone from LA here want to chime in? I'd like to know what you think about all this and what, if any, experiences with the LAPD you may have.
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:iconmeanus:
meanus Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
welcome to hell dumbshit darner
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:iconspugmeister:
spugmeister Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
So, now we have a burned down cabin with an unidentified body.

Oh, and evidence the police carried out an execution

[link]

As predicted.
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:iconebolabearvomit:
EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
No evidence suggests an execution.

If you idiots knew anything about gun fights, tear gas, wood, and fire there would be no conspiracy.
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:iconspugmeister:
spugmeister Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
You do know that people with knowledge of the effect of hot tear gas canisters on wood are perfectly capable of using that information to deliberately cause a fire?

Other sources have suggested there's evidence of the police deliberately allowing the fire to burn through the entire building including basement before allowing in the fire brigade. If the fire was an accident, why let it burn?
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:iconebolabearvomit:
EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
What sources?
The area was cordoned off!!
You have no sources.

Why do the police have to endanger fire rescue and charge them with putting down a fire in a building that houses a guy who has multiple weapons? DUH!

Don't overlook the fact the place was hit with a recent blizzard too.
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:iconspugmeister:
spugmeister Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
The same sources that recorded police screaming 'burn the motherfucker' during the press blackout?

What has a recent blizzard got to do with deliberately burning a man alive?
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:iconebolabearvomit:
EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
Recording a radio frequency does not support your claim that there were sources present at the scene that was cordoned off by law enforcement.

Let's not think too hard. Blizzard. Mountainous area. Police lock down. Guns.
If you start thinking for a change you'll easily understand it's not an easy task to even consider trying to put out the fire.

There is no reason why fire rescue should be put in danger. Let the house burn.

The house was not purposely set on fire. There is no evidence to support that. None. Zero.
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
Indeed, I'm listening to some of the info coming out now. (not sure if it's true)

The guy sounds like a real hard ass. Silencers on nearly all his guns, Those "hundreds of rounds" were the cops guessing where he was within the house. The guy was definitely a pro. They were forced to burn the cabin down.
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:iconspugmeister:
spugmeister Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
I don't see why. Once cornered, it's only a matter of time until he runs out of food.
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
Because they most likely wanted him dead.
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:iconspugmeister:
spugmeister Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
Obviously. But the police in the US don't have the right to kill at will, and criminals in the US have the right to a trial.
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
I know, I'm just saying the cops would never allow a scenario where dorner could surrender.
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:iconspugmeister:
spugmeister Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
Well that's the point of my thread...
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:iconebolabearvomit:
EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
No one burned the cabin down.

The police had no reason to burn it down. If they wanted him dead they would not have used a vehicle to peel apart the cabin they would have just used high powered rifles to turn it into Swiss cheese.
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
Read *spugmeister link. Allegedly from the tapped police radios, they used an unmanned vehicle as well as burning the house.
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:iconebolabearvomit:
EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
The audio has been played and replayed over and over. Burners are tear gas canisters activated by heat, not incendiary weapons.
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
That's why they used 7 of them.
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:iconcenaris:
Cenaris Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
IT'S HAPPENING
They're about to gun him down! I became a fortune teller.
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Now we had a gunshot in the cabin, follow by the building burning down. The cops have to wait for it to die down before they see if the guy's body would be in there (which I'm betting it will be).
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013   Artist
He has hostages...and he knows how to use 'em!
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:iconcenaris:
Cenaris Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You mean two people he tied up so he could steal a car and drive off?
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013   Artist
No... right now.
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:iconcenaris:
Cenaris Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So what hostages are we talking about?
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013   Artist
Uh oh...media blackout!
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:iconcenaris:
Cenaris Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Means they've probably got him and are thinking about a catchy tagline.
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013   Artist
They're checking cars. They said they were'nt sure he was in the cabin anymore.
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013   Artist
Actually, I guess they don't really know.
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:iconramebomango:
RameboMango Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Lets just Hope its not One of the Hostages they found in the Cabin that burned down
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
link?
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:iconcenaris:
Cenaris Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's on news networks. He's "pinned down" in Little Bear California in a shootout.
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Wish there was a TV where I'm at.......
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:iconcenaris:
Cenaris Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Here you are then
[link]
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:icongamelno:
gamelno Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Thanks!
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:iconhustlerdu:
hustlerdu Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
fuck the police they killed sean bell
fuck the feds i still deal fishscale
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:iconthelightswentoutin99:
TheLightsWentOutIn99 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Student Writer
I went to school with some of the Bell family. They're fine.
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:iconhustlerdu:
hustlerdu Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
seans still dead tho right? didnt they shoot him like 50 times?
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:iconthelightswentoutin99:
TheLightsWentOutIn99 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Student Writer
I was going to make a terrible joke and then realized that I don't like giving away personal details. Yeah, Sean Bell is dead.
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:iconwitwitch:
witwitch Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Student Writer
I have a few friends in California who support this guy. The LAPD has been known as incompetent for many, many years now. This guy is just bringing attention to it by making it more obvious. Do I think that justifies killing? Of course not, if we want to have a civilized society we should investigate corrupt cops and bring them to trial, not have a vigilante go out and kill them. That being said, the court system has been incredibly ineffective for decades at bringing corrupt cops to justice.

It's a complex issue.

If this were a movie like Boondock Saints, most people would be cheering him on.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I have no problem with him killing corrupt cops. Killing innocent people, however, is a problem.

Flip side of that: The cops have now shot at more innocent people than he has. Granted, they've all survived, but that merely demonstrates how shitty they are at shooting.
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013   Artist
I also have doubts that he just put a gun to a woman's head and killed her, anyway (which may seem like strange doubts to have given the circumstances!). The 'manifesto' suggests he wouldn't do that. Her fiance was a cop, too -- so maybe she got caught in a crossfire. He's only been charged with killing policeman at this point, anyway, so maybe she's not even dead, just being protected, etc.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Her fiance was not a cop. He was a mall security guard.
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013   Artist
I couldn't tell from the picture. Though if Dorner was looking for cops and the guy happened to be in uniform -- that would have been a problem.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
No. The problem was he decided to kill the daughter of somebody he had an issue with.
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013   Artist
I'm not debating whether or not he killed her -- though, who's to say what actually took place? I'm only suggesting that her death may have been accidental.
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:iconwitwitch:
witwitch Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Student Writer
A friend of mine told me that in America, "they're taught how to shoot, not to aim." He didn't mean literally they don't know how to aim, but that "shooting" in general is seen as a better strategy.

Conveniently, the more bullets they fire, the more money for the government's defense contract buddies.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Your friend would be correct with respect to police, incorrect with respect to everybody else.
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:iconwitwitch:
witwitch Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Writer
He was referring to police/military, not the general gun owning public, of course. Actually, when he said it, he was comparing the Finnish army (in which he was some small type of small unit leader) with the American army. What he actually said was, "In America they teach the soldiers to shoot. In Finland, we teach them to aim." It's been a tradition since the Winter War, when supplies for the Finnish side was scarce, necessitating accuracy.
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:iconjackmolotov3:
JackMolotov3 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
very much not true about the US military. In fact the opposite.

The "myth of the lone gunman", is a long time Army brass hangup and predjudice against assault rifles, and other small automatic weapons. it continues today, as the US is the only major world power who issues a standard issue assault rifle without fully automatic mode(3 round burst that doesn't work right).

in my 9 years in the military, I was never once instructed on the operation of firing either an m16 or m4 carbine in fully automatic or 3 round burst mode. In fact I was told never to use it, ever.

That is why there was 20 years between the Russians adopting the AK-47, and the US military adopting the m16, which was further gimped, made useless and purposelessly set up to fail, because the Army wanted everyone to not like assault rifles.(in the military).

Among the complaints, is the bullets weren't large enough, didn't shoot far enough, and weren't accurate enough at long distance.(complaints invalidated by studies that showed most combat is close)

The myth of the lone gunman, is that a basic infantry private, with a regular infantry rifle, and nothing more than regular infantry training and experience can, hold back an entire battalion of enemy by sniping at them, preferably at medium to long range.
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:iconthegman0:
theGman0 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist
:icondefense2::iconsaysplz:Fuck you, The cops are always right. Their job is to take care of unlawful shits like yourself.
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:iconvorpalpen:
VorpalPen Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013   Artist
I'll fuck any pig that moooooooves.
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