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Drinking Age

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xxdabombxx Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Should it be lowered to 18 becasue that's when people are legally adults
Or kept at 21?? (why is that anyways)

I say 18 because 21 makes no sense.
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rustyironmonger Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
In Utah, the drinking age was 25 at one point IIRC. That is even more fucked up than mandating that alcohol be restricted to 21 and over. There should be no drinking age, no one should be branded criminal for putting something into their own body. No smoking age and no drug laws either.
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Lexi247 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
It's that age probably to try to prevent young drunk drivers.

Whether it has been effective or not, I'm not sure. If it hasn't been effective, I say lower it to 18. I think people are more attracted to things if they're not allowed to have it, at least in some situations I've observed.
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CA-WOLF Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well this is the same problem as for guncontroll; taking it away will make more people use it. I say that you should be able to drink at age 10. That way less people will get hurt! Logic!


Btw: Sweden says hi with a drinking age of 18....
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zodiacgal Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
To quote a friend of mine, "The drinking age should be lowered to 18 and the driving age should be raised to 21."

I sort of agree with that theory. A lot of teens get into car accidents, and drink alcohol. It's nearly impossible to keep alcohol completely away from teens. But if a teen drives without a license, they can get caught and get fined. The stakes are a bit higher in that way. :shrug: Just an idea.
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Bobbelebien Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
18 doesn't sound like a bad age to be allowed to drink
But then again, 16 is the legal age to start drinking here
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kimsy2358 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
I say prohibition part II.
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bohobella Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Twenty-one is fucking bullshit. I can't believe you live in a country that lets you buy guns, join the army, go to college, get married, move out, all that jazz -- but won't let you drink oh lawdy no until you're 21. I live in a province where the drinking age is 18. It just makes sense. Not to mention, by the time people turn 21 here I find the novelty of drinking can wear off considerably whereas it's just beginning for American young adults (not to suggest ya'll don't drink before you turn 21, that would be incredibly naive).

Here, there is a 0% alcohol tolerance for young drivers I believe. That makes sense.
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kimberleyblackstar Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Its 18 in the UK (but you can drink wine in a restaurant with parents at any age)
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Detective-Inspector Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
All your secrets wouldn't be secret for very long at the bar. Especially with your parents. XD
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Princess-Amy Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Drinking age is 18 over heere in europe sweetie ! so there is no need to lower it.
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JackMolotov3 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
it should be at 18. along with all other "adult only" activities.

we need to set standards of what constitutes adult and child. Not 16 for responsibilities(being tried under the law), and 21 for rights and privledges(like buy a handgun, or booze).
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JessicaBlood Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
Lower to 18.
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ruamsa144 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
I think the age was raised to decrease drunk driving. Yes there are underage drinkers, but their many more law abiding citizens.
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qwertywithak Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
By the way, the government shouldn't have to protect people from themselves. They should protect people from others trying to hurt them IMO.
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Rhichter Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
The government definitely has to protect people from themselves in a many number of ways. People are retarded ...

If no one had to wear a seatbelt, then the people most likely to take stupid risks, namely the types of people who won't wear a seatbelt when one is available, will most likely get into crashes and are then most likely to die.

So, paternal law is important.
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qwertywithak Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I think people being retarded has more to do with education than law.
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qwertywithak Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well the drinking age is 21 because the brain doesn't stop developing fully until you reach your mid-twenties. It's put in place that way to protect people from themselves.
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SpaniardWithKnives Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree lowering the age when people learns to drink. I do not know what the hell happens in the US concerning alcohol, I think is a cultural thing. Our drinking age in Spain was 16 until recently. Now its is 18, the same to vote or smoke (I think it got raised too).

We grow up in Spain with the wine going around the table. As little kids, it is common to get drunk eventually, because you ended up taking sips from our parents wine (specially if they were not looking). Nobody called the cops, nobody got their children custody taken away from them. We learned since childhood how to handle the wine. We have alcoholics, of course, but we know how to drink

If somebody wants to get wasted, get wasted in a friend's house or your own house. I can not understand those fucks who drink and drive. I drink like a fish sometimes, and then, I do not even take the car
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moofactory Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
I think it should conform to what ever the legal age for adult entertainment is.
If your allowed into a strip club at 18 then it should be the same for alcohol.

As for us in Australia.
Its 18 for alchol, 14-9 months to start work, 16 for sex, 16 for driving and 18 for basically anything else considered adult such as strip clubs and gambling/ smoking.

There is some debate about it being raised to 21 which I dont think is a bad idea.
18's year olds are considered legally an adult here.

But I dont think most 18 year olds could be considered an adult regarding their maturity.
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KorukiKonaru Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
As an extra note, alcohol is bad when you're kids, but when you turn 21 it becomes very, very good! So don't be making yourself stupid on the dumb juice!
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KorukiKonaru Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
It's 18 here already, so ha.
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evb16 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
I didn't see this so I will say this: The reason that the drinking age is 21 is because post-prohibition age the government withheld money as a bribe to raise the drinking age to 21.
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macker33 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
In ireland you can drink at 15, just not in public and you cant buy it until you are 18.
15yos used to be able to buy it in supermarkets but i think the pc crowd had the law changed.
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Crotale Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
Actually, the age is set by each state. However, back in the 1980s, the USG passed law that prohibits certain highway funding to states who allow person younger than 21 to legally obtain and consume alcoholic beverages. In other words, each state has to decide if allowing persons under 21 to drink is more or less important than general highway safety.
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Frozenglyph Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
In here you can buy 0,5% drinks if you are 13, beers (~vol- 4%+) are 18y and hard stuff (spirit, vodka and so on) are 20.
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MrBonecracker Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
in germany you can drink soft stuff like beer and wine legally when you are 16 years old.
every one or two years there is a debate to raise the age but in the end it still stays at 16 :shrug:
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iroNoNiji Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And kids start drinking with twelve, so why even bother?
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KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The human brain isn't fully developed til about 25, so even at 21 alcohol is apparently changing the brain chemistry in ways it wouldn't when you're older. I don't understand either really.
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Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
That's a really weak defense TBH.
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KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I wasn't saying I was defending any side, I was only stating why they made it 21. Personally, I think people should be free to do what they want at 18.
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MaddalinaMocanu Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I don't drink alcohol, so I don't care what the legal age for drinking should be. It could be 30 for all I care!
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mosobot64 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Student General Artist
In Canada, it's 19. Seems sensible.
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KittyLevin Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I seem to remember reading that the liver matures fully at 21. Might be total BS, though.
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VISIONOFTHEWORLD Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
Why does 21 make no sense? After seeing how the idiots acted at college, I was convinced even before my 21st birthday that the drinking age is probably too low. It should probably be more like 25. Enough people getting killed in car crashes as it is, I don't need any more hip youngsters driving around drunk like a bunch of idiots, taking innocent lives because they feel invincible with their youth.
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Because your personal anecdotes are totally diagnostic of an entire segment of the population!
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VISIONOFTHEWORLD Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
Finally someone has woken to the Truth!!! :nod:
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Umm, no. Your personal annecdote is faulty.
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fantasylover103 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
In my offense, I think it should be 20.
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Redfoxbennaton Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I don't understand why we smoke at 18 anyways? Is big Tobago really that big?
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Not that I think eighteen year olds should be drinking, but I think lowering the age would make it seem less rebellious to do. Focus on de-coolifying it instead.
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Cenaris Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not about a drinking age. It's about societal tolerance to drink. Parts of Europe have arguably lowers drink binging rates because kids drink the stuff on occasion in light amounts and by the time they reach the age when teens/youths countries like Britain or America are expected to just go completely shitfaced insane on the stuff and puke in the gutter they just go "why? It's only wine. What's so special about it?" and find it boring enough to just drink sensibly without getting wasted.

It's a culture thing, not an age restriction thing.
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Debit Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A friend of mine, who grew up in Spain, then moved to England, mentioned something along that line. Basically, public attitude towards drinking is more lax in Spain than in England. As a matter of fact, Spanish drinking establishments stay up much longer than their British counterpart. However, binge drinking is much less common in Spain than in England. Consequently, drinking culture in Spain is not a big deal, but it is an entirely a different matter in England.
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SpaniardWithKnives Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol. Yes. I am an Spaniard and alcohol is not a big deal there. We grow up with it, specially wine on the table. They serve beer in McDonal's too (I do not see it here).

Eventually you get drunk as a kid in some kind of celebration (first communions, weddings) a result of children going around, taking sips of wine from the parent's glass (we were sneaky little fucks). Nobody gets charged for this, no parents get accused of child abuse. The wine is everywhere, it is not a big deal. My family made it and everybody tried it. I forgot how many times I got wasted by accident as a kid. The legal age for drinking was 16, they raised it to 18, but the teens are not so eager to get cooked like in other places.

Now, whiskey was another matter... :iconevilgrinplz:
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Cailst Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
If you got wasted, doesn't that mean that alcohol was a problem and its ubiquitousness was not helpful in discouraging you?
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Debit Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like the gradual Spanish approach to teenage drinking. This is much better than have a youngster get totally wasted in his/her very first drinking episode. This sudden binge can also be dangerous as one has yet to develop some tolerance, let alone knowing when to stop. (This has something to do with ethanol metabolism, I think. There is a time lag between feeling the negative effects of hangover and the beginning of a drinking episode. Not a good situation to be in for someone inexperienced.)
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ScottaHemi Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
by the age of 18 the brain is still maturing, by 21 it's almost done.

Alcohol can really mess that up.
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Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Then why are people considered adults under the law at 18?
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ScottaHemi Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
physically adults. mentaly not quite.
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Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Physical power doesn't peak until the early to mid 20s. Why not make that the definition of "being an adult?"

As for the brain, it continues to develop well past the 20s. Technically, it never stops, but it starts slowing down in the 30s. Why not make that the definition of "being an adult?"
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ScottaHemi Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
look just because you want to drink at age 18 doesn't mean you should...

21 is fine.
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