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Who does Tennesse's proposed "Classroom Protection Act" actually protect?

:iconchakatblackstar:
ChakatBlackstar Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Tennessee's "Don't say gay" bill is back, but this time it's the “Classroom Protection Act" and now it would force teachers and guidance counselors to tell parents if they suspect students of being gay. What this "protection act" is actually protecting is a total mystery.

This proposal will discourage LGBT youth from actually seeking help if they know their counselors and teachers won't keep it confidential. There's a reason gay youth keep their orientation a secret. Family rejection is a serious risk for LGBT youth. Kids who are LGBT often face alienation, if not outright abandonment, because they come out. Forty percent of homeless youth are LGBT, and many of them report that the reason they left home was to escape an environment hostile to their sexual orientation. LGBT youth who experience family rejection are at high risk for depression and suicide.

So, who does this act protect? How does it help anyone by outing LGBT youth who may have conservative parents who will disown them? And how can the GOP keep calling itself the party of small government when it keeps proposing laws that interfere with people's lives?
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:iconmacker33:
macker33 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Anything that discourages gays must be a good thing.
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:iconangelxxuan:
angelxxuan Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Professional Writer
well Tennessee is in the bible belt, which sees so many things they are against to be sort of, well, "bad", "evil" and so forth. I'm not the least surprised by such an act, a state which brings about the act for children to pull up their pants and wear pants, other odd/awkward bills are going to come about as well.

but there are other therapists out there, have to pay for them, so just because one comes out and people can't accept it, it's best to keep it in the closet and come out to those who you trust. school is the bad place, especially in the younger years, bullies are everywhere and are worse in these years, well, bullies will be with us for the rest of our lives, but one should trust who they are coming out to first and take it slowly, it's still a touchy subject and new, it's the new civil rights thing, so the news has mentioned.
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Cenaris Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The reputation and votes of its creators.
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:iconjuliabohemian:
Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Republicans think you can catch the gay from talking about it.
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:iconmacker33:
macker33 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
You be suprised at just how right they are.
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Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
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theGman0 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist
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Temporal-Lizardo Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
It protects good God-fearing students from the evilness of homosexuality. It protects their beautiful little flower of ignorance. We need this bill for the safety of this land as a whole. WE NEED THIS FOR THE CHILDREN.
MURRICA.

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IncandescentInsanity Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Student General Artist
Right wing politicians are getting scared and panicky because equal rights for all people is being more accepted

so they propose bullshit as a defense mechanism
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Thornbrier Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
The wording of the actual bill seems innocent enough: [link]

All it states TO happen is that sexual things not directly related to reproduction will be removed from the classroom (I disagree with that, but that's another discussion).

It then goes on to say what the bill DOES NOT lot them do, implying that these are things they can already do.

But I do wonder how some of the wording will be interpreted by the legal system and the schools. I can definitely see how some school administrator could interpret this just as BlackStar has stated it and start getting students outed, viewing this bill as evidence that they not only can, but should do such.
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:iconkittythenekoalien:
KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
God damn conservative states. That's one more state I will never live in!
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:iconmgonzales041090:
mgonzales041090 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I'm in Texas. Take me with you! T_T
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:iconebolabearvomit:
EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
No, stay. 2020, Texas will be Blue.
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:iconkrylanna:
Krylanna Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
Pah. In 2020 we're going to have a single blue Congressional district connecting south Dallas, Austin, Houston, and San Antonio with spindly little lines along I-35 and US-290, and another one in the Rio Grande valley.

Barring that, our electoral college will be split.
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mgonzales041090 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Supposedly. I wouldn't count on it. Even liberal San Antonio is chalked full of reddies. The demographics aren't going to change that much.
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
Nuh uh.
Latinos are growing in population. They're going to swing the State blue by 2020.
The same thing that's happening with California was predicted a while ago. The same holds true for Texas and I think New Mexico.
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mgonzales041090 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
New Mexico already is a swing state. Texas has been solid red for forever. You saying in 2016 it'll be "leaning red", and by 2020, it'll be solid blue?
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
Demographics are changing and if the trend holds Texas will be swing or Blue by 2020.
New Mexico will not be a swing State, it'll be a Blue State.
California is looking to be almost solid Blue for at least a few decades unless Democrats fuck up their Latino base there.
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Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Given how intent the GOP is on casting the latinos as bad guys, the dems in California would have to be actively trying to lose latino votes.
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KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
LOL, I feel bad for you XD I imagine the younger generation in Texas is probably going nuts over the people there, at least the ones who don't follow that closely in their parents' beliefs >.>
MEET ME IN CALIFORNIA!
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
I am also in texas :crying:
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It doesn't force them to tell parents if they suspect a student is gay, it forces them to tell parents if they counsel students regarding homosexuality, or what Campfield likes to call "immediate and urgent safety issues involving human sexuality". They are allowed to but are not required to give such counseling, it's up to their own discretion.
It's still a fucked up bill, but I wish people would at least read the damn thing before talking about it.
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Rhichter Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Its about giving the teachers more power to 'out' kids to their parents. Which is a horrible authority to give to a teacher, who is, in america, most likely anti-gay themselves.
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cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It is a horrible authority to give them, but Americans are not mostly anti-gay anymore.
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:iconrhichter:
Rhichter Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
[link]

America is the most anti-gay first world country in the world.
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know, but about 50% of us support same-sex marriage.
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:iconchakatblackstar:
ChakatBlackstar Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
But that's not distributed evenly, and even if it were that means half of the school staff could potentially see fit to abuse this law. It probably wouldn't be a problem in a liberal state like California, but in a conservative state like Tennesse the risk is even greater.
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cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know that, he was talking about America as a whole and so was I. My statement had nothing to do with the bill, which I am opposed to.
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Rhichter Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
About 50% of the people who answered for that particular Study. If you're citing a particular study, which i hope you are. The reality is that the majority of americans, that's over the 55% mark, are against homosexuality in any shape or form. Homophobia in essence.

America is a very ... backwards country.
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
There have been multiple studies that turn out around 50%.

Have you ever been to America?
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:iconrhichter:
Rhichter Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Well, link me to one. Because so far, what i'm seeing is that the majority of america doesn't support or allow gay marriage. Which is an indicator of ... you know ... not supporting gay rights.

As well as 76% of Americans identifying as christian/catholic. Meaning that those people are almost certainly all anti-gay to some degree. And yes, i have been to america. I love it.
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Creamstar Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I also have to think you're overreacting the bill. When you actually read the bill, it doesn't seem to say anything that you described, unless you think that there are undertones. This is what it says:

"[The bill shall not prohibit...] A school counselor, nurse, principal or assistant principal from
counseling a student who is engaging in, or who may be at risk of
engaging in, behavior injurious to the physical or mental health and wellbeing
of the student or another person; provided, that wherever possible
such counseling shall be done in consultation with the student's parents
or legal guardians."

I'm not sure what acts are specifically a problem here, but there is no mention of homosexuality.
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:iconchakatblackstar:
ChakatBlackstar Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Many conservatives think that homosexuality is a risky behavior or a mental health issue of some sort, and in a conservative state like Tennessee that can be a problem with school staff being allowed to twist laws like this to that effect. After all, it doesn't specify any standard for which one has to gauge or justify what a risky behavior is.
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's implied.
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:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist
Unless you're assuming the contents of this bill I don't think homosexuality is implied in that section at all. It is very vague though. Sounds like this part is talking about bullying to me.
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cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It says that if a student is counseled because they are "engaging in, or who may be at risk of engaging in, behavior injurious to the physical or mental health and wellbeing of the student or another person", the person counseling the student has to tell the parents.
That senator responsible for the bill, Stacey Campfield, believes that homosexuality is included in that category. He has publicly stated that homosexuality is dangerous.
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:iconshidaku:
Shidaku Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Sure, but what teachers decide to report on is their discretion. Unless the law further clarifies what should or shouldn't be reported, it's not implied at all.
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cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Note that before it says what faculty will not prohibited from doing, it says "LEA policies and procedures adopted pursuant to this section shall
not prohibit:"

Now unless this is some legal language I don't understand, that means that the following is applicable to any procedures or policies that might be adopted in accordance with the previous 2 sections, which are talking about human sexuality and prohibit materials discussing "unnatural" sexuality.
This implies that counseling the students on these so called "harmful behaviors" could otherwise be viewed as violating the first 2 sections, necessitating the need for the 3rd section.
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Shidaku Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
"not prohibit" is just fancy language for saying "You're allowed to do this but not required to."
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I didn't say they were required to.
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tacosteev Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist
There's also that nut who thinks women can't get preggers if they're raped. Doesn't mean everyone else believes it.

I hope that state has some sane teachers who don't believe garbage like Campfield.
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't worry, we do.
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:iconcreamstar:
Creamstar Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I suppose so? It's just very vague in that I'm not sure what it's trying to address.
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Basically it's giving counselors or teachers an opening to "out" students if the counselor/teacher believes they are engaging in anything psychologically harmful. Problem is that a lot people, including Stacey Campfield, think that includes homosexuality.
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:iconcreamstar:
Creamstar Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
But certainly there is also an interest in letting parents know of other psychological difficulties. Would it be better if homosexuality were explicitly exempted?
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't think there is. Note that it says "LEA policies and procedures adopted pursuant to this section shall not prohibit:"
Doesn't this imply that they are still talking about faculty discussing sexuality with students?
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:iconcreamstar:
Creamstar Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Yes, which apparently they aren't supposed to do. Since it's Tennessee, I certainly am skeptical though.
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Eh, there are some really backwards areas but Tennessee isn't all bad.
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:iconthornbrier:
Thornbrier Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Actually, its implying that the councilors already have these powers/responsibilities and the bill doesn't remove them.
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:iconcake-fiend:
cake-fiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Which would be unnecessary to say unless "harmful behaviors" includes homosexuality.
It's basically saying "don't talk about homosexuality in the classroom, but you can still counsel students about it if you tell their parents"
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