There have been countless threads on this forum whenever an Israeli-Palestine issue comes up (probably once every 2 months or so).
I think we can all agree Israel and Palestine are not going to solve their problems in the near future due to there being a lot of bitterness and strong nationalism on both sides. So the point of this thread is what agreement do you personally would be the best for the region and why? The ideas should be reasonably realistic (so the total annihilation of either state is out of the question).
Palestine has as much historical claim to the region as Israel does. The entire region between Phoenicia and Egypt was reffered to as a district of Syria called Palaistinê by the greek Herodotus back in the 5th century BC in his 'The Histories', the first historical work which defined the region in any way. It is as much a real state as jaakobou claims Israel to be.
'Palestine' is not a real state, certainly not outside the delirious minds of some people who have the ridiculous idea that the Arab-Israeli conflict is THE conflict of the middle east.
Currently, it does not belong to anyone. It was taken by Israel from Jordan after they took it in the 1948 war from the non-state area that was supposed to be given to the Arabs -- but they rejected that idea and tried to take everything. Jordan's occupation was only accepted by a couple of states ... best I know, it wasn't even accepted by the Arab world. Israel took it in the Six Day War and Jordan decided to relinquish all future demands for the territory. Israel, was under the problem of what to do with a clearly hostile population in a territory which it now holds. As a relatively reasonable idea... the Palestinian Authority was created in order to give them, theoretically speaking, more rights than they would get under Israeli military law... (the idea of giving full citizenship is an absurdity considering their view on the state of Israel). In the mean-time, they decided to keep the "muqawama" (lit. popular resistance, aka ideology of conflict enhancement) going and launch a wave of suicide bombings into "Israel proper". Great stuff. Anyway and regardless of having a majority, there's no de-facto Palestinian state anywhere. Not in Judea and not in Jordan, where they should have about 70% of the population.
I'm interested in what would happen between the two if the US stopped being Israel's guard dog.
On another note, I know that besides a small amount of fanatics on both side, neither populations want any war between each other. It's their governments that are causing the problem. It's just old people running the countries backwards, with their eyes and minds on dealings of the past. A new, young, dynamic government on both sides should the trick.
I think we can all agree Israel and Palestine are not going to solve their problems in the near future due to there being a lot of bitterness and strong nationalism on both sides. So the point of this thread is what agreement do you personally would be the best for the region and why? The ideas should be reasonably realistic (so the total annihilation of either state is out of the question).