How would you change the education system?


divine--apathia's avatar
Nothing is perfect. Yes, some education systems are better than others, but all have flaws. For example, Asian education systems are known for their academic excellence, however, they are also criticized for placing a high amount of pressure onto children, causing stress, mental health issues and even suicide. On the other hand, more relaxed systems can be accused of the opposite,relatively low stress, but a lack of academic vigour.

So what would you change about the education system where you live? What you do think is the major problem with it? What's the strengths of the current system?
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Rizhnir's avatar
Make it year-round, with a month off every 3 months. Kids lose brain cells and thinking power after 3 months of nothing during the summer.

Unfortunately, summer vacation is too highly valued by big business and it would be too radical a change for our society. Which is why it will never happen, at our own expense.
I think we should focus more on "showing" rather than "telling." For example, mathematics. The majority of that is taught by a boring lecture and bookwork. How often have you heard kids whine, "When am I ever going to use algebra in real life?!" Well, if you actually get them up and SHOW them how it pertains to real life then I think they can catch on. Take them out and measure the square footage of the school football field instead of drawing on a piece of paper. Do you teach art and music by standing up and lecturing and expecting the kids to do it on their own? No, you get them a paintbrush or an instrument and they learn as they go, by DOING.
We each first graders their numbers by counting on their fingers and adding/subtracting with actual building blocks or something. It shouldn't stop there. It should go all the way to fractions, decimals, algebra, calculus, etc....

Also, I've noticed that schools in my city have a curriculum for Gifted and Talented kids, and in every one they boast how the program is very "hands-on." As in, the kids go outisde and do experiments, get out of their desks and use their knowledge for real-life activities. I mean, really? You give the fun stuff to smart kids who probably wouldn't mind learning from a book in the first place but you can't do the same for the "regular" kids? It doesn't have to be as rigorous as you would for a G&T kid, but I think every student deserves to apply learning to the real world. And people are wondering why the schools' scores are low. :roll:
prosaix's avatar
I wouldn't. I guess in Asia that became the main method of natural selection since there isn't much to go on. As for people themselves... well we need stupid uneducated people in society as well. :la:
divine--apathia's avatar
Not all of the weak students kill themselves. A lot of them become violent hermits :P [link]
prosaix's avatar
Well their actions result in artificial selection then... or they get stronger 'fighting' these violent hermits. And it also gives people like Tamaki Saito something to do!
puddelbal's avatar
:bulletblack: Make higher education free with a focus on technical institutions.
:bulletblack: Eliminate majors in liberal arts institutions.
der-freishutz's avatar
all religions are taught.
ethics is a manditory lesson.
people can be put into detention for saying stupid comments, so to teach them to only speak when they have something intelligent to say.
economics is the main core of maths.
music is removed from the manditory lessons, so is drama.
school goes on from 11 until 5.
divine--apathia's avatar
How does removing drama do any good? Students need to be able to speak confidentially in front of people, work in groups, and improvise regularly, for most jobs.

Speaking as an ultra shy person who did drama from grade 1 - 12, it improved my confidence in front of people and helped me complete my other assignments. I never had done drama, I would have never been able to complete my 15 minute oral in modern history.

intelligence is subjective. As they say, 'if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree, it will spend it's life believing itself to be stupid'. People have differing views about things, for one thing, so what may sound smart to one person, will not sound smart to another. For example, if the teacher is a holocaust denier, they'll punish the kids for talking about the truth.
der-freishutz's avatar
id rather they were being taught something important, if they wish to take drama during their later years of education that is fine. You can fined confidence in other lessons anyway, as i did in oral speaking in english. maybe a drama club would be a good middle ground, yes?

intelligence is subjective, but wisdom is not.

if we had a holocaust denier as a teacher in england, they would be removed. what godforsaken nation would let that go on anyway? like i say wisdom is not subjective, and neither is common sense.
nonecansee's avatar
In my case, I would like to see more rhetoric in our curriculum as opposed to simply memorization. I know the tests are more difficult that way but for me, topics leave a more lasting impression because the mind is being made to work and figure things out as opposed to simply just soaking up information that may be forgotten after the test has passed.

That and teachers who work in public schools ought to be paid more (i.e. given more value). That can partially ensure quality education for all socio-economic levels :)
AnAliasUnknown's avatar
Well, I'd probably first try and conduct a study on different school systems in different nations and examine what could possibly work in my nation's school system. (Although this perhaps has already been done before, I'm not sure). I'd probably review an alternative to the pure "tenure system" for the teachers at non-college levels (perhaps make it more possible to fire bad teachers, but have guidelines in place so that this isn't overly abused). Reviewing the credentials needed for teaching (and perhaps raising them) could also help. Getting rid of the "No Child Left Behind" policy could be good too. Look into increasing funding, perhaps creating a board that reviews textbooks and teaching materials (that is on the national level...unless this exists already?).

I'd still continue to encourage the cooperative environment that seems to be the norm in a lot of U.S. schools, however. I don't feel like the competitive nature seen in many of the Asian schools is particularly healthy or useful.

Finally, I'd probably inspect some of the cultural mentalities behind schooling in different nations, because I do sometimes wonder if that is part of where the problem lies. Doing all of these things to help the school system could help, but not if we have a lot of kids who find it a waste of time to learn.
Culturalrider's avatar
I think most people already know the main problem with the American education system. There is a huge discrepancy between the quality of education in wealthy and poor districts. You can actually receive a relatively good education in the United States if you go to the right school. But I've heard some ridiculous stories from schools in bad districts. Teachers almost never teach. Textbooks that are outdated. A curriculum so watered down that students can pass simply by showing up.

The curriculum is dumbed down to keep graduation rates up. Teachers teach to standardized tests to keep test scores up. Many colleges carry the banner of low standards by passing these same students through in an effort to collect tuition dollars, especially as government grants become more scarce. Employers are all aware of this and have to search for alternative methods of weeding out unqualified applicants.

Students pick up on the cheapening of their education and realize that they won't necessarily get a job through with a diploma and degree in hand. This leads many to have less of an incentive to focus on education. This creates a destructive cycle.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. There are a whole range of other problems. But education inequality and lowered standards are the primary cause.
miletich2's avatar
Sometimes (or most of the time) teachers are easily irritated that they vent their frustration on a select few students, such as when they're talking while they're teaching, they can't help but whine "THAT'S IT, OFF TO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE!" or "IF YOU KEEP MAKING THAT NOISE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DETENTION FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR!"
AkoyaBones's avatar
I think it would help if schools could be able to focus on the different learning styles rather than trying to get all of the students to learn with one style or swapping out styles.
qwertywithak's avatar
I think a problem, in Texas, is funding. Our governor doesn't seem to value education as much as he should. I would have more taxes go to education, among other public institutions.
semi-surreal's avatar
Teachers should start each course by building upon a conceptual foundation first. For example, instead of telling math students to just memorize a bunch of incomprehensible formulas -- and then attempt to blindly "apply" them -- they should initially explain how that formula came about: what its inherent logic and practical use is in the real world.

Another good example would be to use modern-psychological/mnemonic techniques for difficult material: such as having students "picture" a word that they need to memorize or learn to spell -- as if the word consisted of giant bold letters floating in front of them. Trying to teach them to spell "phonetically" is a joke! As Richard Bandler (founder of NLP) would say, "You can't even spell [the word] 'phonetics' phonetically!"

Oh, yeah...and in some cities -- like Chicago -- it would help the youngsters "retain" what they've learned by providing them with bullet-proof vests!
fantasylover103's avatar
I'd say that I'd put better teachers in altogether. I hate it when they hire stupid teachers who don't care if their students get and A or an F, who don't teach at all, and just want the money!
Sheepy94's avatar
The first step into revolutionizing any part of society is giving more power to the majority. Let the students tell their teachers what they want to learn, rather than the other way around: being indoctrinated by the government and the bourgeoisie that operate both the public and private educational systems.
RestInMotion's avatar
The teachers never tell the children what to learn, the teachers are basically slaves to the county. Also, a lot of children are uninterested in learning, others who do want to learn probably won't agree on a subject. I don't see students picking curriculum as a good idea.
divine--apathia's avatar
That's funny. I have worked in child led environments.
Sheepy94's avatar
Kids are uninterested in learning because they are forced to attend schooling with no say in how they want to learn. The teachers are not the only slaves, but the students are the biggest slaves of them all. To deny the right to learn what the students demand is not only undemocratic, but quite borderline authoritarian.

It works, it's been proven to work because it takes the interest of the students at heart and goes with it, rather than jamming nationalism down their throats and censoring every bit of knowledge that would be deemed too 'inconvenient' for educational system.
RestInMotion's avatar
I've had three conversations with three different people on here and they all seem to think that religious schools are what public schools are... You know we are talking about public schools right? There is nothing authoritarian about not putting a 5 year old in charge of curriculum. Public school does not teach nationalism.
Sheepy94's avatar
I did not mention religion at all. You've obviously never went to a public school.