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The truth about states

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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
For my fellow US citizens, I have news for you. The state you live in is not a state. The US is a state, Germany is a state, but as far as Utah,Wisconsin and Iowa goes,nope,not states. What we call states are more along the lines of provinces because in order for something to be considered a state it must have full sovereignty, which unfortunately places like Wisconsin and Florida don't have. I'm sorry.
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Unvalanced Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
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Novuso Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
It is funny how the original poster does not even call the US by its' proper name. The country's official name is: The United States of America. It is not the United Provinces of America. It is the United States. The US is a federal union of States representing a larger economic and political cooperation. It is really not that much different than the European Union. States that join either the US or the EU continue to be States after joining.
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RestInMotion Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
It is completely different from the EU. You're right in the sense that he is wrong, but the EU is made up of nation-states, not states. Wyoming is part of the U.S, Germany is not part of Italy.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
but wisconsin cant declare war on other states
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
America isn't the only place with states :roll:
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm sorry, this thread is meant for US citizens.
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
My country has exactly same state system as America though?

Australia is made up of states and territories.

Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania, South Australian and Western Australia are all states. Then we the Australian Capital territory and Northern Territory. There are a few more smaller territories, but I wouldn't be able to rattle off the names.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
still not a US, citizen, sorry bro
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RestInMotion Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
And that's relevant how?
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This thread was addressing US`citizens, silly
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Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
What’s next, miles aren’t really miles? They’re kilometers?
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tacosteev Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist
You mean kilometers aren't metric miles?
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Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Well they are not equal in distance. So I’m going to have to say…no.
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tacosteev Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist
That's because kilometers screws up space and time. I know I'd rather drive 60 miles to the next town than 100 kilometers ;)

I drove to WA state from Alaska a couple of years ago. I was not prepared for kilometers and seeing numbers like 500 until the next town was scary :fear:
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VISIONOFTHEWORLD Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
You better tell Mexico that to. And Germany- their 'lander' are defined as states. The bastards.
And Brazil...
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
And Australia.
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WolfySpice Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
The United States of America is a federated State. It is a federations of States. The clue is in its name. The United States.

So yes. They are States; they have just ceded their jurisdiction over some issues to a singular federated State. Beyond any powers granted to the Federal government, they are fully autonomous sovereign States.

Tip: Germany is in the same boat with the European Union. They've submitted themselves to a greater union, but not as much as the US. They're subject to the European Parliament under threat of legal action. Yet despite submission to a greater union, they are still an autonomous sovereign State.

So the States of the United States are States. Isn't international law interesting? You'd think when people say 'State' they'd mean 'State'! Why does it have to be so complicated?
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Now do a UK version.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would, but I don't know a single fucking thing about the UK except for the fact that the Beatles and Hitchens are from there.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Those are good choices.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like your avatar btw, it looks like a Mudokon
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
It's based on this old thing I did as a kid [link]
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love it, excited for the remastered abe's exodus?
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Oddysee. Yes. One of my friends got hired to work on it.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Boss
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MercuryShine Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
This is something everyone learns in History or Government class that everyone seems to forget.
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OuroborosCobra Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
No, the US and Germany are sovereign nation-states. What nation-states choose to call their subdivisions is up to them. States is as valid a name as provinces or divisions or countries (as in the UK) or many other names. The US is not even the only one to use the name "state" for its subdivisions. So does Mexico, for example.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
the funny thing is the US chose a term state was to get 13 "state" would join the union, because during revolutionary period people would say "my country of Georgia" or "my country of Virginia" so they wanted people to feel like they were still a country.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Show me where in the definition of "state" it says FULL sovereignty.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
you have an internet, I don't have to
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I have an internet. That's how I know your definition is false.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
then why did you ask for a definition?
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
To show you how wrong you were.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Why? I'm not some closed minded prick, I'm open to people telling me I'm wrong. I'm sorry if my forum post somehow offended you and that's the reason why you had to be a brat about it. Yes, I was wrong. As-salamu alaykum
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Who said I was offended? How silly. I'm merely irked, the usual result of obvious misinformation.
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
so why'd you have to be a cunt about it?
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KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I've wondered that too - why is state and country interchangeable?
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