Race and politics...
Why must we talk about the race of a political figure, like it matters?
Lets face it:
Some people still hate Obama because he is "Black."(He is half black anyway)
Lets face it:
Some people still hate Obama because he is "Black."(He is half black anyway)
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A lot of people voted for him just because he's black, don't forget to mention that.
no... some people hate Obama because he's an inexperienced egomaniac who's bypassing congress, disolving our countries strenght, dissing his opponants AT EVERY TURN, running off a string of lies and running up the debt to insane levels.
did you know that raising the debt ceiling is a sign of bad leadership! [link]
Obama's done it once already, and is about to do it the second time... what a hypocrat
did you know that raising the debt ceiling is a sign of bad leadership! [link]
Obama's done it once already, and is about to do it the second time... what a hypocrat
Why are you talking about people in Alabama like they matter?
You assume too much, I never said where these peole are from.
I think these people are from your imagination.
Why are you talking about racism like it's isolated to one location?
Because few people outside of Alabama hate Obama for being black. There are so many other very good reasons to hate Obama, so for you to assume that white people only care about his race is horribly racist.
Even the KKK has a larger presence than just in Alabama, so don't act like racism is isolated there.
It's pathetic that you think the only way to be racist is to be a single-minded, card-carrying racial supremacist.
It's pathetic that you think the only way to be racist is to be a single-minded, card-carrying racial supremacist.
No, I don't think that. It's also possible to be racist by assuming that the only way white people could dislike Obama is by being racist.
I would venture more in Alabama love him because he is black than hate him for the same reason.
That's probably true.
The sad thing is, there are a lot of countries out there that think America is absolutely idiotic for all of our "race issues."... Before we go calling people racist for not supporting someone from a minority group, we really need to look at the persecutions that have occured/do occur/are still occuring in various African and Asian countries. At least in America, most so-called "racism" doesn't result in a person being tortured and murdered any more!
Should we really ignore all of our own problems in order to tell other countries how they should be? Should we really try to play world police before we have our own shit together?
What the hell does that have to do with this conversation?
What I'm talking about is real racism versus this stupid hissy-fit crap we have in America over jobs or crime or what-have-you. Sometimes the white guy is more qualified for the job position. Sometimes the black guy or the latino guy is responsible for the crime. Sometimes we have to accept that equality means equal treatment and not favoritism to the "oppressed" group.
What I'm talking about is real racism versus this stupid hissy-fit crap we have in America over jobs or crime or what-have-you. Sometimes the white guy is more qualified for the job position. Sometimes the black guy or the latino guy is responsible for the crime. Sometimes we have to accept that equality means equal treatment and not favoritism to the "oppressed" group.
You seem to think that because America doesn't suffer 'real' racism (which is, apparently, limited to lynching and enslavement) there's no reason to care about the racism we do have. Never mind the incarceration rates, never mind the levels of poverty, never mind the institutionalized prejudice which attempts to erase entire segments of society which fail to conform to cultural expectations; I guess because it's not Darfur here, nobody should complain?
'Equal treatment' requires more than just de jure equality. When certain segments of the population have substantially greater disadvantages in society, it takes more than removing legal barriers to establish real equality.
'Equal treatment' requires more than just de jure equality. When certain segments of the population have substantially greater disadvantages in society, it takes more than removing legal barriers to establish real equality.
You act like white people never live in poverty in this country. So you'd help the minorities and do nothing for the caucasians living in poverty? That's what you seem to be saying.
Giving people handouts does not teach them how to fix their situation. It only makes them reliant on those handouts. You want to fix poverty and crime rates among minorities in this country? Fine, teach them the skills they need to succeed in this world... but don't leave out their poor white neighbors and you better punish their crimes instead of saying "Sorry, we've already arrested too many minorities this month. The rest of you are free to go about your little gang wars and drug dealings and misc. other crimes." The only thing that attitude does is put the minorities in danger who don't participate in criminal behavior!
And "fail to conform to cultural expectations"? Are you kidding!?... So you think that because honor killings or child prostitution or animal fighting/abuse are legal in other countries that we should just allow immigrants to bring those practices here? Even though they're against our laws? You just want to give anyone from another culture who moves to this country a free pass to do whatever they please? If you live in America, you have to live by American laws! If you live in the UK, you have to live by their laws. If you live in Canada or Australia or France or Russia or Japan, you have to live by their laws! So don't spout bullshit about non-conformity to our culture and persecution. If they want to live here, they have to respect that things are different here, and we will throw their butts in jail or fine them for anything that an American-born caucasian would be punished for doing.
If they disagree with American culture, fine... let them come here for a college education or whatever and then move back to a country whose culture they do agree with! America is about equality for everyone... not just one group or another. You can't make exceptions for one group if you're not going to make them for all other groups.
Giving people handouts does not teach them how to fix their situation. It only makes them reliant on those handouts. You want to fix poverty and crime rates among minorities in this country? Fine, teach them the skills they need to succeed in this world... but don't leave out their poor white neighbors and you better punish their crimes instead of saying "Sorry, we've already arrested too many minorities this month. The rest of you are free to go about your little gang wars and drug dealings and misc. other crimes." The only thing that attitude does is put the minorities in danger who don't participate in criminal behavior!
And "fail to conform to cultural expectations"? Are you kidding!?... So you think that because honor killings or child prostitution or animal fighting/abuse are legal in other countries that we should just allow immigrants to bring those practices here? Even though they're against our laws? You just want to give anyone from another culture who moves to this country a free pass to do whatever they please? If you live in America, you have to live by American laws! If you live in the UK, you have to live by their laws. If you live in Canada or Australia or France or Russia or Japan, you have to live by their laws! So don't spout bullshit about non-conformity to our culture and persecution. If they want to live here, they have to respect that things are different here, and we will throw their butts in jail or fine them for anything that an American-born caucasian would be punished for doing.
If they disagree with American culture, fine... let them come here for a college education or whatever and then move back to a country whose culture they do agree with! America is about equality for everyone... not just one group or another. You can't make exceptions for one group if you're not going to make them for all other groups.
If it wasnt the color of the skin it would be something else, you cant make everyone just shut up.
Why must we talk about the race of a political figure, like it matters?
How many chimpanzees can dance on top of a pin?
How many chimpanzees can dance on top of a pin?
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Because, like it or not, race is still a factor for some. Loads of things shouldn't matter in choosing a leader but they can swing votes. An ugly leader has less chance than an attractive one, a tall one more chance than a short one, someone with expression more than someone monotone, someone who appears confident rather than worried etc. None of these should be relevant but they just are.
Eh, confidence and the ability to speak well in public are both traits of a good leader, so they should have an effect upon politics.