What's Wrong With Liberals?
Honestly, I know very little about politics(but I want to know more) For an assignment for school, we had to make a political comic. Perfect opportunity to learn about Politics. So far, I haven't learned much(yet) but one thing I did learn(and already kinda knew) is that people aren't very fond of Liberals. Now I don't see anything wrong with them, but like I said before I know very little about politics. So I thought I'd get some opinions on the subject of Liberals.
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A really poor way to phrase your topic if this is for school, its an inherently biased way to put it, and you're only going to get people who spend all day raging against the one side rather than an informed answer with a full understanding of both parties and their deficiencies (Because all politicians suck, it's a fact of life). The reason you're seeing people really hate liberals, is because passions are high on both sides. Half this country really hates liberals, the other half really hates conservatives. Its one way or the other, but we're equally divided on it.
Here's my quickie overview, but bear in mind the situation is much much much more complicated than this. I will try to be as unbiased as possible in describing how one group perceives the other:
Liberals are mostly disliked because they represent a platform that is 'progressive', that is they support programs aimed at helping the poor or underrepresented classes. This often leads to policies that are considered intrusive to personal privacy (Instituting a Nanny state, telling us how to live our lives because it's "good for us"), socialist (for supporting these programs with government funds rather than allowing free market to decide what's best), and are very costly. Conservatives view Liberals as bleeding heart 'takers' who spend money they didn't earn.
Conservatives are disliked because they are perceived as greedy and aggressive. Conservatives prefer the funds to go to defense rather than to social programs, believing in the free market systems to handle all of those issues. Liberals dislike this because they believe the free market system eventually only favors the rich, and without regulation we would be run by a handful of corporations (which has some precedence, look up antitrust laws from the 1920's, or The Jungle in concerns to how are food was processed and handled before the FDA). Conservatives are also disliked because they have a track record for dragging religion into an argument and making some very inappropriate remarks concerning things like rape and racial insensitivity, something Liberals vehemently believe don't belong in a rational debate. Liberals view conservative as heartless rich people who don't care about the poor because their problems don't affect the wealthy.
To be clear, neither of these views are entirely correct. As I said, it's very complex and there's never one answer to all our problems. I will suggest however, you leave your research to the books in your library, not to an internet forum. You're not going to find any help with an assignment here, only madmen screaming at monitors.
Here's my quickie overview, but bear in mind the situation is much much much more complicated than this. I will try to be as unbiased as possible in describing how one group perceives the other:
Liberals are mostly disliked because they represent a platform that is 'progressive', that is they support programs aimed at helping the poor or underrepresented classes. This often leads to policies that are considered intrusive to personal privacy (Instituting a Nanny state, telling us how to live our lives because it's "good for us"), socialist (for supporting these programs with government funds rather than allowing free market to decide what's best), and are very costly. Conservatives view Liberals as bleeding heart 'takers' who spend money they didn't earn.
Conservatives are disliked because they are perceived as greedy and aggressive. Conservatives prefer the funds to go to defense rather than to social programs, believing in the free market systems to handle all of those issues. Liberals dislike this because they believe the free market system eventually only favors the rich, and without regulation we would be run by a handful of corporations (which has some precedence, look up antitrust laws from the 1920's, or The Jungle in concerns to how are food was processed and handled before the FDA). Conservatives are also disliked because they have a track record for dragging religion into an argument and making some very inappropriate remarks concerning things like rape and racial insensitivity, something Liberals vehemently believe don't belong in a rational debate. Liberals view conservative as heartless rich people who don't care about the poor because their problems don't affect the wealthy.
To be clear, neither of these views are entirely correct. As I said, it's very complex and there's never one answer to all our problems. I will suggest however, you leave your research to the books in your library, not to an internet forum. You're not going to find any help with an assignment here, only madmen screaming at monitors.
I don't know...Your description of conservatives is almost exactly Paul Ryan.
Even liberals aren't fond of liberalism, that's why they have dropped the liberal label and now call themselves progresive. What's in a name?
I don't like them because they are all about empowering Big Brother...they want a totalitarian system where the government runs every aspect of your life, what you eat, how you spend your money, etc. First they make people dependent on biG brother...(47 million on foodstamps) then they control you by threatening to remove your benifits if you dont' vote right
You're saying they want to oppress and not be oppressed?
liberals want total control...thats why t hey are always screaming for more power to Big Brother, more regulations, more taxes, more oversight, more everything and anything that has big brother with his nose up your ass. Like gun control, government screams for more but nobody is suggesting that government give up its guns...oh noooooooo!
And you accuse President Obama of being a dictator?
no, he just wants to be a dictator
That's your opinion, not a fact.
so, liberals think hes God
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I'm sorry for butting in, but I have to agree with you miletich when you say that Obama is a dictator. Thank you for clarifying that!
President Obama is no dictator. He may be in your point of view, but he's definitely a good man.
I'm just agreeing with what you said.
Fuckin' socialist. Go back to the USSR!~
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Be wary of people that label themselves as "Liberals" or "Conservatives".
But you want to know eh.
Cons? A large group of fuck wits with immoral practices and preachings.
Libs. A large group with obnoxiously moral practices/preachings/social justice bullshit/politically correct bullshit.
They all fucking suck.
Learn this now. They both fucking suck. One is not better than the other. That's why you'll see them going at each other.
Never put yourself into these groups. You'll only ever see one side of a larger argument.
Be free and be in the middle.
Make a comic mocking both because they're both worthy of mockery.
But you want to know eh.
Cons? A large group of fuck wits with immoral practices and preachings.
Libs. A large group with obnoxiously moral practices/preachings/social justice bullshit/politically correct bullshit.
They all fucking suck.
Learn this now. They both fucking suck. One is not better than the other. That's why you'll see them going at each other.
Never put yourself into these groups. You'll only ever see one side of a larger argument.
Be free and be in the middle.
Make a comic mocking both because they're both worthy of mockery.
One is not better than the other.
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Historically speaking -- one is. <:
WOW. "What's Wrong With Liberals?" That's a tall order. Where do I start, and how much time you got?
The first thing you need to do, is read and study the US Constitution.
Without that knowledge in place, it really isn't possible to explain those nut-burgers properly.
One tidbit of information on liberals however, that you might find interesting.
Today liberals celebrate 40 years of legalized abortion, 55 million babies dead, and counting. Way to go Liberals, they sure know how to outdo Adolph Hitler in putting innocent human lives to death.
Liberals love aborting babies. Don't believe me? Try taking away the right to kill an unborn child from a liberal and see how they react.
The first thing you need to do, is read and study the US Constitution.
Without that knowledge in place, it really isn't possible to explain those nut-burgers properly.
One tidbit of information on liberals however, that you might find interesting.
Today liberals celebrate 40 years of legalized abortion, 55 million babies dead, and counting. Way to go Liberals, they sure know how to outdo Adolph Hitler in putting innocent human lives to death.
Liberals love aborting babies. Don't believe me? Try taking away the right to kill an unborn child from a liberal and see how they react.
As a friend has told me: Let the liberals abort, that will reduce their population.
Liberals are the ones that are most concerned with social justice, equal rights, and supporting minorities that have previously not known support. Liberals are the ones making distinctions between fractions of groups, like "normal Muslims" versus "terrorists" - distinctions the far right fears for lack of propaganda value and excuse to throw America's weight around. Basically, most steps in the right direction in terms of ethics, are due to liberals. You can find the differences ever so subtly among liberal and far-right voters. The latter are more likely to send the woman to the kitchen, roar "Murca!", and be distrustful and judgmental of anything foreign, "different", or un-Christian. These concepts can be applied to other nations as well, obviously.
Whenever liberals get under fire, it often comes from extreme rightsts who cannot for the life of them deal with the idea of NOT conveniently labeling all Arabs terroists, NOT having things comfortably stay as they are, and God forbid, having to put up with foreign or new concepts. They immediately fear for the rise of Sodomy and Gonorrhea, and that Murca becomes America (as in - less redneck).
And ironically, those crapping on LIBERals, are also screaming most loudly for their LIBERties.
As AvSkyggene said, it's hard to fit into one mold unless you're a hopeless simpleton. I voted liberal today because I agree with most of their points, while my 2nd favorite party was a far-right one where I agreed with most of their goals as well, except they tend to flip-flop where as the liberals I voted for, are known to fight to keep their word.
Whenever liberals get under fire, it often comes from extreme rightsts who cannot for the life of them deal with the idea of NOT conveniently labeling all Arabs terroists, NOT having things comfortably stay as they are, and God forbid, having to put up with foreign or new concepts. They immediately fear for the rise of Sodomy and Gonorrhea, and that Murca becomes America (as in - less redneck).
And ironically, those crapping on LIBERals, are also screaming most loudly for their LIBERties.
As AvSkyggene said, it's hard to fit into one mold unless you're a hopeless simpleton. I voted liberal today because I agree with most of their points, while my 2nd favorite party was a far-right one where I agreed with most of their goals as well, except they tend to flip-flop where as the liberals I voted for, are known to fight to keep their word.
seems to me that liberals are always wanting to empower Big Brother with more laws, regulations,and money. The last thing liberals worry about is individual freedoms. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc were all liberals
Anyone who can classify themselves with a single label is well-deserving of scorn.
Nobody should be able to neatly fit into a mold. Not unless they've consciously made them self do so.
Nobody should be able to neatly fit into a mold. Not unless they've consciously made them self do so.
Here's the thing, it's all politics and neither side of the spectrum has your best interest in mind as they are owned and operated by huge corporate interests and lobbyists. And not a single person here can truly say otherwise. Thanks Citizens United.
I don't believe that we are as divided as the media thinks we are but they like to throw in social issues to temper the flames. To try and perpetuate the "Us versus Them" mentality.
I'm going to assume you're conservative (or at least think you are) and I can guarantee it's all about how you approach social issues as opposed to fiscal ones. Most Americans are in the middle with a dash of one side or the other. I usually see conservatives as the ones who would rather things stay the same. Thinking that (and as an extreme example) laws on the books from the 1800's somehow work and apply to how we operate now. Liberals want change and, often times, too much too fast. Especially on social issues. And then, you have us in the middle, who can't figure out the disconnect.
I, personally, am a classic liberal. Joe Biden is another good example of someone who is a classic liberal and I'm pretty sure we can agree on some things. I approach everything as "This is my personal view and this is my view on the Constitution and how other people run their lives."
Some examples:
I am pro-life but I will not tell someone they can't do with their bodies what they want. I don't care what some person does with themselves as long as they understand the risks. And there ARE risks. Right to privacy.
I believe in marriage equality mostly because I don't care. A couple of dudes getting married has absolutely no impact on my personal life at all. I do fully acknowledge that it's a slight taboo in some circles, I really do. I draw the line at self-harm or those circles harming another.
I am not an environmentalist even though I believe we shouldn't be putting toxic waste dumps over fresh water supplies or drilling for oil in pristine landscapes just so some jerk in the oil business can make a short term profits.
I am not religious but I don't care that others are and might be as long as you don't get violent or scream in my face about it. Freedom of religion.
I believe in the separation of church and state. First Amendment.
I believe myself to be a patriot and I am not afraid to criticize my government as I believe we are better then what we are now.
I believe in capitalism. I believe that if ANYONE, no matter race, sexual orientation, creed, or gender, is willing to work and strive to make their own opportunities I am in support of that and I believe it should be invested in.
I do not believe in the exploitation of the weak or disadvantaged.
I want to see taxes raised across the board and cuts in spending where it will count and the money that we generate from that endeavor to be used in an intelligent manner. Infrastructure, for starters. Land restoration, remodeling and rebuilding, small business stimulus, etc. We can cut spending all day, if we're not investing in our economy and our people, those cuts will have been for nothing. I understand the Republican argument, to cut spending and start paying down what we already owe, but we need to invest in order to make even more money to full throttle that prospect.
I am SICK of short term profiteering. I am willing to concede that some media outlets have an already bias view on issues like this, but when you see articles that state that some CEO bankrupted a company, laid off x-amount of workers and walked away with +thousands/millions of dollars, we've got a serious problem. Hostess really didn't need to go under and they would have prospered had they invested in the continuity of the company. Spending money is always a risk. Any smart entrepreneur will tell you that. But at least they would have gone down swinging instead of leaving the workers high and dry.
Anyway, I'm sure some of you agree and some of your disagree. That's fine. I, like so many of you, do our best to approach these issues with a level head but I was simply trying to underline some issues that we seem to be disconnected one.
You should be less concerned with your neighbor's political affiliation and watch how the Capital actually operates.
NDAA was renewed.
Patriot Act extended and added upon.
Citizens United is still on the books.
We're still in the Middle East (which not only costs money but LIVES as well)
It's as if they created these measures because the defense budget is so bloated they need to spend it on something.
^--THESE need to be immediately addressed as opposed to having a conversation about who's right and who's wrong with political affiliation.
My advise to you is to just keep an open mind and understand that there are people in the country, in your state, in your county and towns, right down to your neighborhood, that feel and think differently than you. You will not always agree and instead of looking down your nose at them for it, try to understand why and come up with a solution to meet on middle ground so you can move on together. And we need to have these disagreements to continue to prove to the rest of the planet that there are people in this country still willing to think for themselves.
I don't believe that we are as divided as the media thinks we are but they like to throw in social issues to temper the flames. To try and perpetuate the "Us versus Them" mentality.
I'm going to assume you're conservative (or at least think you are) and I can guarantee it's all about how you approach social issues as opposed to fiscal ones. Most Americans are in the middle with a dash of one side or the other. I usually see conservatives as the ones who would rather things stay the same. Thinking that (and as an extreme example) laws on the books from the 1800's somehow work and apply to how we operate now. Liberals want change and, often times, too much too fast. Especially on social issues. And then, you have us in the middle, who can't figure out the disconnect.
I, personally, am a classic liberal. Joe Biden is another good example of someone who is a classic liberal and I'm pretty sure we can agree on some things. I approach everything as "This is my personal view and this is my view on the Constitution and how other people run their lives."
Some examples:
I am pro-life but I will not tell someone they can't do with their bodies what they want. I don't care what some person does with themselves as long as they understand the risks. And there ARE risks. Right to privacy.
I believe in marriage equality mostly because I don't care. A couple of dudes getting married has absolutely no impact on my personal life at all. I do fully acknowledge that it's a slight taboo in some circles, I really do. I draw the line at self-harm or those circles harming another.
I am not an environmentalist even though I believe we shouldn't be putting toxic waste dumps over fresh water supplies or drilling for oil in pristine landscapes just so some jerk in the oil business can make a short term profits.
I am not religious but I don't care that others are and might be as long as you don't get violent or scream in my face about it. Freedom of religion.
I believe in the separation of church and state. First Amendment.
I believe myself to be a patriot and I am not afraid to criticize my government as I believe we are better then what we are now.
I believe in capitalism. I believe that if ANYONE, no matter race, sexual orientation, creed, or gender, is willing to work and strive to make their own opportunities I am in support of that and I believe it should be invested in.
I do not believe in the exploitation of the weak or disadvantaged.
I want to see taxes raised across the board and cuts in spending where it will count and the money that we generate from that endeavor to be used in an intelligent manner. Infrastructure, for starters. Land restoration, remodeling and rebuilding, small business stimulus, etc. We can cut spending all day, if we're not investing in our economy and our people, those cuts will have been for nothing. I understand the Republican argument, to cut spending and start paying down what we already owe, but we need to invest in order to make even more money to full throttle that prospect.
I am SICK of short term profiteering. I am willing to concede that some media outlets have an already bias view on issues like this, but when you see articles that state that some CEO bankrupted a company, laid off x-amount of workers and walked away with +thousands/millions of dollars, we've got a serious problem. Hostess really didn't need to go under and they would have prospered had they invested in the continuity of the company. Spending money is always a risk. Any smart entrepreneur will tell you that. But at least they would have gone down swinging instead of leaving the workers high and dry.
Anyway, I'm sure some of you agree and some of your disagree. That's fine. I, like so many of you, do our best to approach these issues with a level head but I was simply trying to underline some issues that we seem to be disconnected one.
You should be less concerned with your neighbor's political affiliation and watch how the Capital actually operates.
NDAA was renewed.
Patriot Act extended and added upon.
Citizens United is still on the books.
We're still in the Middle East (which not only costs money but LIVES as well)
It's as if they created these measures because the defense budget is so bloated they need to spend it on something.
^--THESE need to be immediately addressed as opposed to having a conversation about who's right and who's wrong with political affiliation.
My advise to you is to just keep an open mind and understand that there are people in the country, in your state, in your county and towns, right down to your neighborhood, that feel and think differently than you. You will not always agree and instead of looking down your nose at them for it, try to understand why and come up with a solution to meet on middle ground so you can move on together. And we need to have these disagreements to continue to prove to the rest of the planet that there are people in this country still willing to think for themselves.
Same with the rest of the capitalists is what's wrong with them.
Because liberals believe in high federal government and believe that it's the governments job to handle social issues. Many believe the opposite of that, that is why. It's not because liberals are idiots and it's not because conservative are assholes. In a way it's like opposing religions.