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No wonder: Things to fear in 1940s were Fluoridated water, polio vaccine, and mental health.

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The problem with this, is that many of the people that were indoctrinated under such suspicions, are still alive, and in positions of power that they shouldn't be, instead of working the cafeteria at an old folks home.

The discussion I seek is the effects of McCarthyism, and how it has negatively impacted the society of the USA, and what can be done to reverse the effects.
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Karinta Jan 29, 2013  Student General Artist
森の村の丸を見る。
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JackMolotov3 Jan 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
don't group "mental health" with florridation of water, and real science like vaccines.

mental health has a long sorid history of abuse, and political influence, and has been used to detain "undesirables" without trial, and ruin lifes, with forced lobotomies and electroshock treatment.

In fact, staying away from medicine if you were poor during the eugenics era in America, was probably a good idea. The doctors, mostly middle-upper class had a good chance of not treating you any better than cattle.
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Mental Health has a long sorid history of abuse.
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Electroshock and lobotomies have faded from view. So have many of the original crackpot political-base theories of why they tortured people. However, psychologists still have yet to abandon social, political, and economic self intrest in their work, and there has yet to be a clean sweep of the industry.

Communism has slowly faded from view(or not, Hugo Chavez???), but the same ability of the government to push buttons is known. How many of the people who work in propaganda, grew up hearing about McCarthyism, and figured somethings don't change

Some people watch movies and root for the bad guys. Some people ask themselves "what can I do to get and obtain power", and "how do I justify it". This seems to be the norm in the US for anyone who attains any power, or any influence. We've equated bullshit to reality, and we've lost all morals in lying to eachother.

We see a man on a podium, we no longer ask if he's good or evil, just that he has power, and if we are nice to him, mabey we'll get some too, or at least not be rounded up after the next tragedy. Good PR, can make any man on any podium, good. We worship celebrities as they break all the laws we vigorusly enforce on other people, and then get dismayed when justiced gets served.

we apply the same to politicians, under the guise of "political expediency", but expect nothing more from politicians than lip service to feel better about ourselves. Instead of working with eachother to find solutions, we rig eachother up as straw man, to point fingers, and goad most socially oppertunist among us to commit otherwise anti-social acts against them.
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Odd, that's what McArthyism was based upon.
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JackMolotov3 Jan 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
McCarthyism was based on a lot of things.
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But especially silly fears like those.
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JackMolotov3 Jan 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
did you read any of the links I posted?

Do you know who Alan Turing was?
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His name came up in class today.

The British Government give s a formal apology for his treatment
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"It's too late to save World War II codebreaker and computer inventor Alan Turing, who was chemically castrated for being gay in 1952. But 55 years after Turing's death, the British PM Gordon Brown has apologized."

DO YOU THINK THIS IS FAKE?

DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS SOME SORT OF PARANOID DELUSION?

THIS IS THE MAN WHO CRACKED ENGIMA. HE IS THE REASON WE ARE NOT SPEAKING GERMAN RIGHT NOW. HE WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST MINDS......EVER.

HE INVENTED THE GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER.

HE WAS CASTRATED BY THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT AS PART OF "MENTAL HEALTH". HE TOOK HIS OWN LIFE. IT WAS AARON SWARTZ * 1 MILLION.

MENTAL HEALTH......
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LeapingLela Jan 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The true fear was communism. As senator McCarthy did demonstrate and wrecked several careers in the process. America seems to rally to a rational fear. In the 50's and 60's is was communism. In the 70's it was AIDS and drugs. We will find something else to fear just as we always do.
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AIDS wasn't recognized until 1981. No one was afraid of AIDS in the 70's. And fear helped us identify the exact causes and precautions at an elevated pace. Some fear is warranted and helpful when there are real problems.
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No, it was Leninism and Stalinism.
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JackMolotov3 Jan 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
it was the soviet union, and their military and intellegence agencies.
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