would a soviet work in any country?

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~der-freishutz Dec 27, 2012 Hobbyist Writer

For those who do not know, a soviet is a collection of workers, soldiers and other working class men and women who make political decisions. They are not elected, everybody gets a say and everybody votes on the conclusion. When they first started in russia, they were immensely popular, with soviets being set up for train rides and such.

My question is, would these work for other contries? could we have a soviet for a plane ride just incase anything happens? Could you have a soviet for the workers of each supermarket insted of having a boss?

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!lucyfurry Dec 31, 2012

I`m not sure exactly what you are referring to, communism? You should check in on anarcho-syndicalism, read up on marx, the zapata, the spanish revolution, kropotkin, and emma goldman(etc!). All the authors also have articles they`ve written on how a "soviet" works in real life. In short, yes, its possible, it has happened before.

~der-freishutz Dec 31, 2012 Hobbyist Writer

soviets were set up in russia before lenin took over after the october revolution, so the idea of a soviet is pre-communist. Infact most people in the petrograd soviet, which helped to run russia, were kadets.

!lucyfurry Dec 31, 2012

ah, i just wanted to clarify what you meant by your question! and you`re right about that.

*Debit Dec 29, 2012 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

My initial thoughts regarding workers' cooperatives beyond mere fancy would require ...

1. The overall vision of the society in question is optimistic, open to experiments and questioning the previously respected top-down approach to both public and private issues

2. The previously infallible elites have discredited themselves to such an extent that the commoners no longer need to worry about the potential consequences of offending the elites

3. Minimal top-to-down political-economic 'loading the dice'

4. One's own measure of self-worth and self-esteem and respect-from-others are no longer heavily dependent on one's own financial statements (have we observed the fact that these sort of thingies are prone to dis-information over and over?!?)

5. One's own measure of self-worth and self-esteem and respect-from-others are no longer heavily dependent on past credentials (Alfred Wegener vs. mainstream geologist during the early 20th century over the 'tectonic plates'; Ancel Keys & the mainstream medical authority since the late 1970's vs, Robert Atkins & Mary Enig & others over the dangers of saturated fats)

~VISIONOFTHEWORLD Dec 28, 2012

Yeah sure, why not. If enough people on the deviantart forum says so it must be possible.

~RobStrand Dec 28, 2012

Well that is glorious in theory, until someone steps in and take control and rule with an Iron fist like the Mob or a dictator.

~Cenaris Dec 28, 2012 Hobbyist General Artist

North Koreans worked in other countries during the 50s. A soviet/communist would work anywhere if they can send the money home.

~der-freishutz Dec 28, 2012 Hobbyist Writer

you do know that workers in a western contry could just set up a soviet themsevles? I hope were talking about the same thing dude.

=puppy-dangerous Dec 28, 2012 Professional General Artist

In a very SMALL country, it would work.

Just like most systems, they work GREAT if you have a few hundred or maybe even thousand people. Once you start to get big and spread out it falls apart.

~kitsumekat Dec 27, 2012

You almost described a Union. I don't know if they would work in America though.

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